[Vision2020] Our Troops
Pat Kraut
pkraut at moscow.com
Sat Mar 24 00:51:52 PDT 2007
I listen to Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and troops call in all the time and
they are treated very well on both shows. My point was the mainstream media.
Like Gary said CNN, ABC, NBC etc what are they showing?? Not anything
positive about the troops.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholas Gier" <ngier at uidaho.edu>
To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
Greetings:
I, too, have seen some of the pictures that Pat has just now discovered.
I would encourage Pat to listen to NPR. They run at least one daily
interview with returning soldiers and their families, or non-returning
soldiers and their devatasted families, as the case may be. The
interviews are always well done, sensitive, and poignant.
Nick Gier
----- Original Message -----
From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> I have said it before - if PAT does not recognize something as
> being legit,
> has not seen an item before on her MANY, MANY news sources that she
> apparently trusts (i.e., Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, etc.) or has
> personally
> heard about it from her hand-picked sources - it simply has not
> existed or
> is questionable, at best.
>
> Fact is, the pictures have been published before, have been seen by
> multiple
> thousands/millions and are frequent "must-sees" on other sites and
> news
> sites.
>
> But then, Pat does not trust any news sites, so mayhap that is why
> she has
> not seen them before or as many times as she seems to need in order
> to allow
> them some form of legitimacy.
>
> As a side note - what the bloody difference does it make anyway?
> The pics
> have been shared here and have been seen by a lot of V2020 folks -
> enjoy,
> relax, get over yourself, Pat. It really is no biggy.
>
> J :]
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:17:43 -0800
> >
> >What I am saying is that none of the pictures have been so
> published that
> >they were recognizable by me or many others who have shared this
> post. I
> >got
> >it from a good friend with a long list of names and I have asked
> those I
> >saw
> >today if they had seen them anywhere else and to a person they
> said no. So,
> >since we consider ourselves readers of wide sources we somehow
> missed them.
> >Either they were printed in obscure places or they just weren't
> used much
> >at
> >all. If you saw them Great! but a good many others did not and I
> bet they
> >weren't on CNN.
> >Our military are being shortchanged in the good publicity department.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> >To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >
> >
> >Pat,
> >
> >If you really mean to imply I didn't tell the truth, you are
> wrong. But
> >perhaps you only meant that if you haven't witnessed something, it
> isn't>true.
> >
> >Sue
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >
> >
> > > Sue has stated that she saw some of these somewhere but I
> haven't and so
> >I
> > > believe they didn't appear on any major cable anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > > To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020"
> ><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Pat
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: "Pat Kraut" pkraut at moscow.com
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:10:12 -0700
> > > To: "vision2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> > >
> > >> They can win if we give them time and funds
> > >> Things you will never see on the New Media.
> > >> Proof of abuse by our Troops....things the
> media> > missed...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Armed American Troops Force Iraqi's
> to Seesaw
> > > Until They Talk!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Iraqi Child Bites GI In Self
> Defense Af! ter
> > > Obvi ous Torture !
> > >>
> > >>
> !
> > >> GI Falls Asleep On Duty While Using
> Iraqi
> >Child
> > > As Body Armor !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> GI Overheard to say, " Talk or I'll
> tickle
> >you
> > > till you pee! "
> > >> More Evidence Of Failed US
> Intelligence
> >Policy.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Soldier Attempts to Eat Iraqi Child !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Clear Evidence of Forced Labor by
> Troops> >>
> > >> Iraqi's Grateful That American
> Forces Did Not
> > > Open Fire During Soccer Game
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Soldier Caught At "Tickle-Torture"
> To Extract
> > > Intelligence !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> GI Forces Iraqi ! Child To Hang By
> Fingertips
> >!
> > >>
> > >> sp;
> > >> No comment here. There's nothing
> funny about
> > > this one.
> > >>
> > >> May the good Lord bless every one of
> our
> >troops
> > > wherever they are!
> > >>
> > >>
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