[Vision2020] Why Not Just Say It?
g. crabtree
jampot at adelphia.net
Wed Mar 21 06:10:22 PDT 2007
Au contraire, the Daily News seems to give the NSA/CC issues the amount of
ink that they are due. I think your just a little miffed because they don't
put your particular slant on what they print. I truly fail to see how it's
any different for the DN "business side" to accept a few paltry bucks for a
few parking slots or for them to accept ad dollars to present propaganda
favorable to causes you support. It is not a news papers job to vilify
anyone or any group, just report the facts, even if you don't like them or
would report them with a more breathlessly outraged spin.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <jampot at adelphia.net>; <lfalen at turbonet.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why Not Just Say It?
> Ummmm, Gary? You may not know that throughout the (mostly honorable)
> history of print journalism in the U.S., the advertising side and the city
> side -- what you'd call the "news" -- are ethically completely separate.
> Has that always happened? Nope. Is that the ideal? Sure is. The fact
> is that the ad side exists to sell advertising; the news side exists to
> report the news.
>
> Never the twain shall meet, in substance or in influence.
>
> The problem is that the DN has a financial stake in the success of NSA,
> even if it's only a few bucks. The DN's city side should be utterly
> pristine when it comes to appearance of favoritism and bias. That's the
> city side. The biz side -- advertising -- should rake in the bucks.
> Those bucks, however, stay on that side of the ethical divide. That the
> DN does such a tepid job of reporting the news as regards the Kirk, etc.,
> is surely not caused by the company's slathering over the lease rate of a
> few parking slots . . . but it doesn't look good. And it does lead us to
> question why the paper is so friendly with the Kirk, an explanation I
> suspect won't be coming anytime soon but won't be any more acceptable for
> the wait.
>
> keely
>
>
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>,"keely emerinemix"
> <kjajmix1 at msn.com>,<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why Not Just Say It?
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:07:12 -0700
>
> I assume that you will want and demand that the DN confess to their pro
> NEA/IEA tendencies when they gleefully/greedily accept advertising dollars
> for the obligatory 'for the children/support our schools' media blitz? It
> appears to me that those ink stained bastards just won't stay bought!
> Next thing you know they'll be accepting bribe money to support
> consumerism and putting out nefarious Safeway ads followed by news stories
> extolling the virtues of PARD. You just can't trust 'em to stay firmly
> left wing 100% of the time. Pity.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why Not Just Say It?
>
>
>>Keely
>>
>>I wont comment on the bulk of your post, but those statements that relate
>>to the DN I think are misplaced. They only have two regular columnists on
>>the right. Add up how many they have with left wing views. You seem to be
>>unhappy if they carry anyone on the right. A newspaper should try to be
>>somewhat balanced on the Editorial Page. I think that is what they are
>>attempting to do.
>>
>>Roger
>>-----Original message-----
>>From: "keely emerinemix" kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:47:19 -0700
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Why Not Just Say It?
>>
>>>
>>>My head has finally stopped spinning from the dizzying array of "facts"
>>>and
>>>the astonishingly glib conclusions drawn from Dale Courtney's guest
>>>column
>>>in yesterday's Daily News. I write not so much to expose the error of
>>>his
>>>thinking, but the error of his character.
>>>
>>>First, though, I'll say that he has every right to submit a guest
>>>editorial,
>>>and every right to blast the School District I served for three years and
>>>appreciate always. The Daily News, which once was a reputable newspaper,
>>>has the right, I suppose, to print his words, although perhaps it would
>>>go
>>>down better if they acknowledged up front that Courtney is an elder at
>>>Christ Church, and the DN benefits directly from Christ Church's New St.
>>>Andrew's College's leasing of five parking spaces owned by the
>>>newspaper -- you'll recall, I'm sure, NSA's continuing wrangling with the
>>>City over
>>>parking, but you would be forgiven if you couldn't recall the DN's
>>>aggressive coverage of the issue. There wasn't any.
>>>
>>>It'd be nice if the DN disclosed that it benefits financially from an
>>>organization its city desk is supposed to cover, and it would be nice if
>>>the
>>>DN acknowledged a terrible fondness for all things Christ Church --
>>>double
>>>weddings, cookbooks, regular columnists and such. Still, the Daily News
>>>operates under whatever standards it chooses; Dale Courtney, a church
>>>elder,
>>>really ought to operate under only one: the integrity befitting a
>>>professed
>>>Christian.
>>>
>>>The fact is, Dale Courtney's theology, and the theology of Christ Church,
>>>and the theology of Pastor Doug Wilson, precludes him from ever
>>>supporting
>>>ANY request for additional funding for public schools, because their
>>>beliefs
>>>forbid it. It's not a matter of Christian doctrine but of the
>>>Libertarian-influenced Reconstructionist movement that has so influenced
>>>the
>>>elders. The Kirk believes, and teaches, that public schools, like any
>>>other
>>>"government" institution, are a burden -- a punishment, if you will --
>>>imposed by God because of the unwillingness of the Church to seize
>>>control
>>>and take dominion over schools, courts, banks and other institutions.
>>>They
>>>chafe under the yoke of taxes, and especially under that part that funds
>>>public education. Support of "government schools" is seen as collusion
>>>with
>>>the enemy, and those children outside of the covenant (because they
>>>surely
>>>must be not among God's chosen) who attend public schools are simply
>>>collateral damage. Further, says the Kirk, education is, at its heart,
>>>an
>>>entirely religious matter, and any education of children undertaken by
>>>the
>>>State is a challenge, however impotent, to the very Lordship of God.
>>>
>>>Strong words, and words Dale Courtney and his pals won't deny -- at least
>>>vocally. But they make clearheaded people, Christians and non-Christians
>>>alike, uncomfortable because their radicalness is exceeded only by their
>>>unfoundedness in Scripture. They may speak the language among
>>>themselves,
>>>but when it comes to "outsiders" -- in this case, those readers of the
>>>Daily
>>>News -- they deny by an act of omission the real argument they have
>>>against
>>>the upcoming levy. The fact is, Dale Courtney's beliefs require him to
>>>hate
>>>public schools, to hope for their demise, and to oppose any additional
>>>funding for which he will have to pay. An honest man may believe these
>>>things, but a coward hides his true beliefs behind recycled statistics,
>>>false premises, and simplistic formulas.
>>>
>>>Why not just say it, Dale? Why not just say, "Hey -- it ain't the
>>>economics, it ain't the demographics, it ain't that I think Blue Knights
>>>are
>>>better than Bears. It's actually that I hate public schools because
>>>they're
>>>an offense to a Holy God, and I would never choose to fund them nor
>>>support
>>>any additional funding for them."
>>>
>>>No, Dale has instead chosen to repeat the late Jack Wenders' tiresome and
>>>disproven screeds against what he saw as a school district gone wild --
>>>he
>>>even used some of the same stats Wenders, who died this summer, used to
>>>throw out. But the facts are very clear:
>>>
>>>-- A 13% drop in enrollment is not a death spiral. In fact, because of
>>>its
>>>high-quality special ed and gifted/talented programs, MSD attracts many
>>>students from other districts. And Logos has lost some kids to MSD,
>>>while
>>>MSD has lost some to Logos or the two charter schools that started up
>>>within
>>>the last decade. And not even the number of families moving to Moscow to
>>>become part of Christ Church can reverse the overall flat-line of Latah
>>>County Growth.
>>>
>>>-- Unlike Logos, MSD is required by state and federal statute to educate
>>>all
>>>children, regardless of the severity of their disabilities. Perhaps Dale
>>>could give us information on Logos' programs for special needs and
>>>disabled
>>>children. I believe there's a matchbook nearby that could contain it
>>>all.
>>>
>>>-- Because MSD prefers to make staffing changes through attrition and not
>>>head-chopping, very few positions have been eliminated. However, because
>>>of
>>>special education requirements from the Federal Government, deaf
>>>children,
>>>for example, each are entitled to a qualified sign-language interpreter,
>>>and
>>>provisions for the nurture and success of each student often requires
>>>additional personnel. Not a worry for Logos -- they've chosen not to
>>>accommodate those who would be a burden on their support base.
>>>
>>>-- You hear a lot that administrative salaries at MSD are bloated. Candis
>>>Donicht of MSD has been a superintendent in Idaho for 18 years, and yet
>>>the
>>>first-year superintendent in Pullman already makes about $10,000 more a
>>>year
>>>than she does. Teachers are paid better in Pullman, even though nearly
>>>two-thirds of MSD's teachers have master's degrees and are endorsed
>>>beyond
>>>generalized curricula. Logos teachers are . . . well, very hardworking,
>>>clearly bright, and undoubtedly quite kind. You'll have to ask Dale how
>>>their experience is quantified or their performances accounted for.
>>>
>>>-- Pullman benefits greatly from a reasonably generous state legislature,
>>>as
>>>well as from the largesse of Schweitzer Labs. Moscow School District
>>>consistently scores at or near the top of every possible measure of
>>>student
>>>success, in an environment made less secure not only by a stingy
>>>legislature
>>>but a church group dedicated to its demise. A man of integrity, on a
>>>mission from God, would state that he is part of that group and an
>>>adherent
>>>to its beliefs. Dale, on the other hand, doesn't.
>>>
>>>If the levy fails, MSD's fund balance for next year means that "only"
>>>$400,000 in programs and staff would be cut; the year after that, the
>>>amount
>>>more than triples. That money funds smaller classrooms, technology
>>>upgrades, staffing, programs and all sorts of things necessary -- and
>>>beneficial -- for modern schools, even in facilities that are less than
>>>adequate. Moscow residents are already paying for an indefinite levy, a
>>>fact Dale seems especially angered by. But Moscow's citizens have
>>>historically stepped up to the plate when it comes to funding public
>>>schools, and I believe they are too smart to buy into Dale's message --
>>>and
>>>too full of integrity to let him pretend his concern is motivated by
>>>simple,
>>>if not simply wrong, economics.
>>>
>>>keely
>>>
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