[Vision2020] What a ripoff!!!!!!

Thu Jul 26 17:39:13 PDT 2007

Tom Ivie,

  It takes 35 minutes to drive from Caldwell to Boise, and almost everything in the Treasure Valley is somewhere in between. It only takes 12 minutes to go from Meridian to Boise, if that. You are either taking Franklin or riding a bicycle if it takes you that long to go 6 miles on the freeway. It takes me less than 10 minutes to drive from South Nampa to the cheese factory. 

  The cost of living in Moscow is higher than the cost of living in Boise, Nampa, or Caldwell. You are failing to realize that the wages and job availability are way less in Moscow than in the Treasure Valley. You also have to consider that gas is cheaper, food is cheaper, and you can find almost anything used online within minutes if you cannot otherwise afford it new. 

  Most wages in the Treasure Valley are over $10 an hour. In Moscow, most wages are much lower. 

  There are other costs that are less too, such as utilities, and movie rentals. You can rent a recent released movie for $1, in Moscow it is about $4. 

  In Nampa and Caldwell you can rent a house $800 or less. Students are easily paying 150% that rate while working for less than $7 an hour. You can get an 800 sqft apartment with a garage for $500. Find that in Moscow and I will take it quickly.  

  Quality of life is dependent on what you need and what you want. If you have a disability, Moscow may likely not be able to help you to the degree that Boise can. Also, there is more to do in the Treasure Valley, and greater/faster medical care.

  The Treasure Valley is growing while Latah is shrinking. You are correct about the drive by shooting with gangs in some parts of Nampa. However, the crime rate in Ada county is not any worse than Latah. I have had relatives injured, shot at, and killed in Moscow just like a big city. Sometimes people are more likely to die in Latah because it takes a long time to get immediate medical attention. 

  I am sure no matter where you are, you would enjoy your children. But if you don't have a job that pays at least $15 an hour in Moscow, it is really close to impossible to give children a high quality of life. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Tom Ivie <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Moscow just paid me 45c 2 weeks ago on my cans. 

As far as Boise goes -You can have it.  The entire Treasure Valley has grown too fast for the infrastructure. It is a good place to visit and then come back home and realize how GOOD we have it in Moscow.  Do we have daily drive-by's?  I hope we never do - or the even the occasional one as far as that goes. Factor into the price of goods an hour of drive time to get to the store and back.  Not that long ago it took me 10 minutes to drive from South Nampa to the old cheese factory between Nampa and Meridian.  Now it takes 30 minutes.  It used to take 15 min to get to Meridian, now it takes close to an hour.  Quality of Life is all relative, but for me part of it is adding up those extra minutes that I get to spend with family and friends for the rest of my life and not stuck in a car in traffic.

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:     Does Moscow Recycling take their metal to Lewiston and get the 35 cent difference?

  Moscow is expensive. The jobs are scare and they don't pay anything. Not to mention housing and basic goods is higher than Boise and most other major Idaho towns and cities. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com> wrote:
      P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    I loaded up my ancient (1981) Nissan pickup with a bunch of aluminum siding today and hauled it over to the recycling center.
Most of it is in 6' lengths, but they want it smaller AND they only pay 15 cents a pound for it!
Pacific Steel in Lewiston will take the 6' lengths and will pay 50 cents per pound!
Moscow Recycling should be ashamed of itself.

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