[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 15 00:04:43 PST 2007
Yeah, I know...just thought I'd point out that Wilson campaigned very
strongly against that business. Not that I agreed with the car wash or
wanted it particularly, just that he did go up against it. Curious that he
didn't just "vote with his dollars" and not patronize it. BTW, isn't going
to places like the "Beach" on nights such as "Wet T-Shirt Night" just as,
em, *bad* as attending one of those car washes? Wilson better keep a better
eye on his boys....seems like they may be voting with their dollars by going
in there.
J :]
>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:39:47 -0800
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>
>
>Heavens to betsy! Do you mean hippie Daisy's topless carwash? That wasn't
>a real business. . . it was a joke. Just childish nonsense. If no one
>paid them any attention, they would have all gone away the first chilly
>day.
>
>Ellen Roskovich
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:31:26 -0800
> >Well now, that is avoidance of a topic. Good going.
> >
> >And yes he does campaign against businesses (remember the car wash?) He
> >certainly does in his sermons and writings.
> >
> >
> >J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> > >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:18:05 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >To the best of my
>knowledge Mr. Wilson has never actively campaigned to
> > >prevent any legitimate enterprise from starting up in Moscow. It
>appears
> > >that he and his congregation vote after the fact with their shopping
> > >dollars, as is their right.
> > >
> > >With regard to Wilson's "too numerous writings," when, as a mental
> > >exercise, I imagine you in one of the afore mentioned "positions of
>power"
> > >I wonder how anyone could possibly come to any other possible
>conclusion.
> > >
> > >I fail to see even a glimmering of logic in your post.
> > >
> > >g
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:39 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and
>other NSA Issues
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > So someone disagreeing with business practices or with a business'
>lack
> > >of
> > > > community care, are to be labeled "wackadoos" and "moonbats"? Who
>wrote
> > > > that rule?
> > > >
> > > > Does that mean Doug is wackadoo" or a "moonbat" because he doesn't
>like
> > >the
> > > > way some businesses allow women to be in charge or allows them to be
>on
> > >a
> > > > board of that business? He has clearly stated in too-numerous of
> > >writings,
> > > > that he feels businesses or organizations that allow women positions
>of
> > > > power are businesses that are unmanly and should not be patronized.
> > > >
> > > > You said it; I'm just extending it
>logically.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > J :]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> > > >>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Matt Decker'"
> > > >><mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> > > >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>Issues
> > > >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:32 -0800
> > > >>
> > > >>hansen opined:
> > > >>
> > > >>"I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)
> > >about
> > > >>the food co-op that you
>mention. What are its hiring practices? What
> > >is
> > > >>the "track record" of that business? How else would the community
> > >benefit
> > > >>from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower
> > > >>prices)?"
> > > >>
> > > >>The above statement does not reflect American free enterprise. The
>idea
> > > >>that every idiot with an opinion should have a say in what a
>privately
> > > >>owned business does before the fact is lunacy. The city should have
>a
> > >set
> > > >>of clearly defined guidelines which are as non-restrictive as
>possible
> > >and
> > > >>then get the heck out of the way. Moonbats and wackadoos can express
> > >their
> > > >>opinion after the fact by
>spending their money with the enterprise or
> > > >>staying away. The last time I checked, it was a businesses job to
> > >provide
> > > >>goods or services and make a profit. Not to be some sort of social
> > >welfare
> > > >>platform.
> > > >>
> > > >>g
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>;
><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
> > > >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:58 PM
> > > >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>Issues
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Mat Decker stated:
> > > >> >
> > >
> >> > "EX. lets say a 150 k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30%
> > > >>lower
> > > >> > prices. Do you really believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What
> > >about
> > > >> > costco?"
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city
>council)
> > > >>about
> > > >> > the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices?
> > >What
> > > >>is
> > > >> > the "track record" of that business? How else would the
>community
> > > >>benefit
> > > >> > from having that business located here in Moscow (other than
>lower
> > > >>prices)?
> > > >> > Etc. Etc. Etc. . . . As far as Costco is concerned, I am
>unfamiliar
> > > >>with
> > > >> > their business practices.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tom Hansen
> > > >> > Moscow, Idaho
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
> > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:47 PM
> > > >> > To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com;
> > >vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
> > >Issues
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tom,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I thought we did this already. Please call me Matt. Just as I
>hope I
> >
> >can
> > > >> > call you Tom.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Tom I don't really feel we need a super duper jumbo size walmart.
> > > >>However, I
> > > >> >
> > > >> > think doing a big business ban is or can be hypocritical. EX.
>lets
> > >say a
> > > >>150
> > > >> >
> > > >> > k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30% lower prices. Do
>you
> > > >>really
> > > >> > believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about costco?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Do I shop at wally world? Only when my wife makes me. I hate the
> > >place.
> > > >>I
> > > >> > think they sell shit, plaine and simple. They do serve a purpose
> > >though.
> > >
> >>You
> > > >> >
> > > >> > and I both know those so I won't go into detail. Do I think they
>will
> > > >>put a
> > > >> > bunch of businesses out of business? NO.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Plus getting 15% of their taxes is better then them going 1/4
>mile
> > > >>across
> > > >> > the boarder, giving Wash the money.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Matt
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > >> >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>,
> > ><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >>
> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
> > >Issues
> > > >> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:30:40 -0800
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>However, Mr. Decker, you yourself stated that by buying locally
>"more
> > > >> >>importantly profits stay here". That is simply not the case with
> > > >>Wal-mart.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>Tom Hansen
> > > >> >>Moscow, Idaho
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
> > > >>arriving
> > > >> >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
>skid
> > >in
> > > >> >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other,
>body
> > >thoroughly
> > > >>used
> > > >> >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >>From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
> > > >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:23 PM
> > > >> >>To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com;
> > >vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
> > >Issues
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>Tom,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>LOL!!!!!!!!!
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>Smart growth would be trying to get businesses into the community
>and
> > >
> >>not
> > > >> >>trying to push them away, along with our tax money.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>Matt
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > >> >> >To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>,
> > > >><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other
>NSA
> > > >>Issues
> > > >> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:01 -0800
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Matt Decker stated:
> > > >> >> >
> >
> > >> >> >"For example: every time they buy something from this community
>the
> > > >> >>dollar
> > > >> >> >stays here. Whether its businesses ran by other church members
>or
> > >if
> > > >>it's
> > > >> >> >my
> > > >> >> >business, which I have at least 4 members that have purchased
> > > >>sprinklers
> > > >> >> >from be. I in turn spend by money locally thus keeping the
>money
> > >here.
> > > >> >>Some
> > > >> >> >taxes stay here but more importantly profits stay here."
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Sounds like a strong endorsement against Wal-Mart and in favor
>of
> > > >>local
> > > >> >> >businesses,
>Matt. Thanks. Those of us who support smart growth
> > > >> >>appreciate
> > > >> >> >your comments.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Tom Hansen
> > > >> >> >Moscow, idaho
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >"If not us, who?
> > > >> >> >If not now, when?"
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >- Unknown
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
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