[Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike again
g. crabtree
jampot at adelphia.net
Fri Feb 9 06:59:39 PST 2007
Oh yes Ms. Ford, I am serious as a stroke. I don't care that the people who are employed at the various places in question are members of the Wilson fold. They are residents of Moscow. People who own property in Moscow. (and pay property tax in Moscow) They utilize the services of other businesses in Moscow. Eat, shop and recreate in Moscow, and despite your personal panics and phobias, over all, these people are good for Moscow's economy and I welcome them as neighbors and fellow citizens. I know that it's impossible for you to pass up an opportunity to regurgitate your litany of anti-CC spleen, no matter what the topic might be but, when it comes to answering the question of what's impeding healthy growth in Moscow there can be no question that it's not your personal bogeyman.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike again
>
> Jeez, Gary - you can't be serious! Not one of the things you have mentioned
> that Wilson "created" is for anyone else BUT HIS CHURCH! They do not hire
> out of the church, therefore the the "payroll" created is bunk. The church
> schools he has "created" buy his own books that his own press publishes. He
> fires or gets rid of anyone that disagrees with him or whose wife displeases
> him (remember the Canon Press worker whose wife sent him an e-mail that Doug
> found displeasing?) Elders whose children do things Doug doesn't like, get
> canned. Only until that child is brought back into what Doug thinks is in
> line, do the elders get to be back on the big-boy's playing field. WOMEN
> are not allowed to hold any kind of position of power. Taxes, which most
> businesses have to pay, are not paid by CC businesses when they claim
> non-profit status. Some of the BIGGEST buildings in the CBD don't pay taxes
> because of this, leaving the rest of the small businesses down there to pick
> up the slack. Heck, there are members of that church who plain and simply
> don't pay taxes because they don't agree with them. And just how many CCer
> businesses have gone under because Doug has a falling out with the "owner"
> of said business? Anyone eat at West of Paris lately - that is NOT
> associated with the church, that is?
>
> Establishing illegal schools, not following the law in regards to same,
> demanding and getting special privileges in regards to zoning and building
> developments or permits, support of a serial child molester as well as
> another one that should STILL be in jail, not informing the public about
> these "men's" activities, promoting the dissolution of several marriages
> because Doug is unhappy with one of the spouses, demanding the death of
> certain populations within the city, condoning and recommending slavery and
> then two years after the publication of a book on that subject, he tries a
> lame excuse like "it really was all about abortion"...yep - sounds like a
> real benefit to the community, that does.
>
> J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike again
>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:20:20 -0800
>>
>>Lets see, on the one hand we have Nancy Chaney, Bob Stout, and last but far
>>from the least, Aaron Ament. All doing their absolute level best to prevent
>>any kind of growth in Moscow which doesn't meet with their fantasy ideal
>>for
>>our town. (think Mexican beach turtle herding) They enact ordinances which
>>all but scream retail development need not apply and do their best to
>>discourage growth of existing businesses.
>>
>>On the other hand we have Douglas Wilson, instrumental in the development
>>of
>>Christ Church, Logos, New St. Andrews, Cannon Press, etc. Establishments
>>with employees, customers, and a payroll. Establishments which, despite the
>>contrary droning of a small but vocal minority, are a benefit to our city.
>>
>>To imagine that Wilson even comes close to being the destructive, anti-
>>growth force in Moscow that our elected city council and mayor represents
>>is
>>silly, even by comparison to your previous standard, to which I become
>>sadly
>>accustomed.
>>
>>g
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:17 PM
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Wilsonista Strike again
>>
>>
>> >I met someone today that is part of a non-religious group new to Moscow.
>> > Since being here over the past month, this person has been INUNDATED
>>with
>> > information, warnings and cautions about Wilson and Christ Church. Fact
>> > is,
>> > they and their family were warned about Wilson, et al, BEFORE they even
>> > got
>> > here by people who don't live in Moscow. They have just heard and seen
>> > some
>> > of the mess that has been going on through the paper, people's word of
>> > mouth
>> > personal reactions to incidents, the Slavery Book, etc.
>> >
>> > Now THAT is just what this town needs - a reputation for breeding people
>> > like Wilson. It no wonder we don't have more businesses looking here to
>> > open or people non-Wilsonista-connected to move and live here.
>> >
>> > Good going, big guy...you're on the map and you're dragging us down with
>> > you. Ever think of moving to the desert? I hear there's a nice bridge
>> > down
>> > in Arizona that you might want to build a moat around and declare your
>> > kingdom from.
>> >
>> > J :]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
>> >>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Saundra Lund'"
>> >><sslund at roadrunner.com>
>> >>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
>> >>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:01:22 -1000
>> >>
>> >>Tom and Saundra,
>> >>
>> >>I'll be happy to bring coffee and donuts, and I'll even help straighten
>> >>the
>> >>club room after meetings. However, I will not take minutes, nor will I
>> >>volunteer to call and inform members of anything. And if you rent
>>Kibbie
>> >>Dome, I'm reconsidering my willingness to help straighten the club room.
>> >>
>> >>But thanks for the invite.
>> >>
>> >>Sue
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> >>To: "'Saundra Lund'" <sslund at roadrunner.com>; "'Sue Hovey'"
>> >><suehovey at moscow.com>
>> >>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:57 AM
>> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Yes, Sue -
>> >> >
>> >> > Welcome to the Intoleristas.
>> >> >
>> >> > Until you get better acquainted with the neighborhood, may I suggest
>> >>that
>> >> > Saundra show you around. As the newest addition to the rank and
>>file,
>> >>you
>> >> > will be responsible for coffee and donut runs. We meet every 12th of
>> >> > Never.
>> >> > So, my advice would be "Don't be late."
>> >> >
>> >> > Guys, we really must get a larger club house. I hear that Doug
>>Wilson
>> >>can
>> >> > get us a really sweet deal on renting the Kibbie Dome. How about it?
>> >> >
>> >> > Welcome aboard,
>> >> >
>> >> > Tom Hansen
>> >> > Intolerista Sergeant-at-Arms
>> >> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >> >
>> >> > "If not us, who?
>> >> > If not now, when?"
>> >> >
>> >> > - Unknown
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >
>> >> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> >>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> >> > On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:21 PM
>> >> > To: 'Sue Hovey'
>> >> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
>> >> >
>> >> > In part, Sue Hovey wrote:
>> >> > "Our relationship is finished, done. over."
>> >> >
>> >> > WELCOME TO THE CLUB! We're glad to have you :-)))
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Saundra Lund
>> >> > Moscow, ID
>> >> >
>> >> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
>>to
>> >>do
>> >> > nothing.
>> >> > - Edmund Burke
>> >> >
>> >> > ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
>> >>Lund.
>> >> > Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
>> >>forum
>> >> > without the express written permission of the author.*****
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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