[Vision2020] Say What?

[heirdoug at netscape.net]

Tom-Tom,

Having not had any children of your own I can see why you may not 
understand, comprehend or even get the gist of what I said earlier. You 
'choose' to not have children by marrying late in life or what ever 
your reason was. I 'choose' to have children as many as God allows me 
to have. These two world views are at opposite ends of the spectrum. I 
choose to submit to God, 'be fruitful, multiply and subdue the earth' 
you choose to ignore God's command. That would be the 'gist' of my 
first sentence.

The second sentence in the quote you try to make fun of is, in context, 
a probability rather than an absolute. I was told by a Mohammadean that 
they do not have to fight to win the religious war they just have to 
have more babies than the Christians and the war will be won. This was 
said to me over 30 years ago. I took his words to heart and now 8 
children later, I have an opportunity to over come his dire prediction. 
To think that his motive was world domination back then. The more 
things change the more they stay the same.

I come to find out that the Mohammadeans are not having the numbers of 
children that you would think. They come to the west and only end up 
having to 2 or 3 that the west is having. It is not the same for other 
countries. Japan is in a death spiral. There are 17 or 18 other 
European nations who depend on importing Muslims in order to function.

Here are a couple of quotes from Mark Steyn's America Alone, you can 
put on the Say What? listing.



"In their bizarre prioritization of "a woman's right to choose," 
feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their days in 
a culture that doesn't accord women the right to choose anything. 
Non-Muslim females in heavily Muslims neighborhoods in France now wear 
head scarves while out on the streets." --

"The EU figures it needs another fifty million immigrants in the next 
few years just to maintain a big enough working population to fund the 
lavish social programs its vast retired army of baby boomers expects to 
enjoy. And the sonly available sources of immigrants are North Africa 
and the Middle-East. Whether these are the chaps to keep Pierre and 
Gerhard in the style to which they've become accustomed is highly 
doubtful: according to some Scandinavian statistics, 40 percent of 
those on welfare are immigrants. Elsewhere, the picture is similar: 
welfare regimes work a lot better for their Islamist beneficiaries than 
for native Continental ones. "--

"What's the Muslim population of Rotterdam? Forty percent. What's the 
most popular boy's name in Belgium? Mohammed. In Amsterdam? Mohammed. 
In Malmo, Sweden? Mohammed. By 2005, it was the fifth most popular 
boy's name in the United Kingdom." --



Now Tom, If you wish to quote me again please add these from Mark Steyn 
to make it complete.

Thanks for giving me an opportunity to express my opinion here on you 
personal blog, Vision 2020.



-----Original Message-----

From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>

To: heirdoug at netscape.net; vision2020 at moscow.com; 
vpschwaller at gmail.com; joekc at adelphia.net

Sent: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 5:35 am

Subject: Say What?





















"As more and more heathens 'choose' to not have children the number of 
Godly

souls will increase. If the number of Christian births out number the 
number

of Islamic births the battle will be over in 3 or 4 generations."



- Doug "No-Clue" Farris (March 10, 2007)



Seeya round town, Moscow.



Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho


















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