[Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest

Tue Aug 7 19:02:59 PDT 2007

No, Roger, that's what most Christian churches say.Christ Church has been, on the one hand, terribly reticent to discuss its views on the death penalty for homosexuals, adulterers, and the like, and yet, on the other hand, quite proud of its call for such in the pages of Credenda/Agenda.  Perhaps you ought to ask Greg Dickison, Esq., a Christ Church attender, C/A writer, and attorney, on his thoughts regarding "love the sinner, hate the sin."Because my eye shall not pity those who refuse to believe that this group not only believes these things, but is less than honest in acknowledging it as well.  And if you wonder about the odd phrasing of "my eye shall not pity," well, gee -- maybe Mr. Dickison could explain it to you.keely"Were I to be again reduced to the chains of slavery, next to that enslavement, I should regard being the slave of a religious master the greatest calamity that could befall me.  For of all slaveholders whom whom I have ever met, religious slaveholders re the worst.  I have ever found the meanest and basest, the most cruel and cowardly, of all others.  It was my unhappy lot not only to belong to a religious slaveholder, but to live in a community of such religionists."  Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, feminist, and former slave> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 15:45:30 -0700> From: lfalen at turbonet.com> To: joekc at adelphia.net> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest> > Joe > There is a difference between saying that it is bibiblically justified and saying that they recommend it in today's society.> My understanding is that they think it is a sin but also say hate the sin, love the sinner.> Roger> -----Original message-----> From: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:55:20 -0700> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest> > > Roger,> > > > Maybe you missed Andreas's last post, which makes the point clearer. > > He writes (to Gary):> > > > "I just find it utterly, gobsmackingly amazing, Gary, that you would> > demand the admittance of people who espouse killing gays into a> > gay-focused club. I don't think that warrants any more than a single> > sentence."> > > > Don't you think that there is reason to exclude a group which as explicitly > > admitted that the killing of gays and lesbians is biblically justified from a> > meeting run by gays and lesbians?> > > > How much threatening abuse should this group have to tolerate, on your > > understanding of rights?> > > > --> > Joe Campbell> > > > ---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote: > > > > =============> > Andreas> > You are trying to compare apples and orange.  A private club operating on private property and supported by private funds can admit or prohibit anyone they want. A group that is sponsored by a government enity, meets on government property, and is supported by taxpayers should be open to anyone who wants to attend, so long as they are not disruptive. Just being present is not disruptive.They obviously can not vote on any issue unless they are members. They can speak if  recognized by the chair.> > Roger> > -----Original message-----> > From: "Andreas Schou" ophite at gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:24:31 -0700> > To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest> > > > > > Two standards? Yes for two distinctly different situations.> > > > > > Oh, I see, Gary. So, for instance, you would be in favor of this> > > Christian fraternity being forced to admit Jews, Muslims, atheists, et> > > al.> > > > > > http://chronicle.com/news/article/2666/christian-fraternity-sues-u-of-florida-over-denial-of-recognition> > > > > > Right? Because that's what would be consistent, right?> > > > > > -- ACS> > > > > > =======================================================> > >  List services made available by First Step Internet, > > >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.   > > >                http://www.fsr.net                       > > >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > > =======================================================> > > > =======================================================>  List services made available by First Step Internet, >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.   >                http://www.fsr.net                       >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================
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