[Vision2020] Army Officer Accuses His Generals of Iraq Failures

[Carl Westberg]

Donovan writes: " Finally, we are still waiting for you to say, "I love my 
country, the United States of America."  We are?  I had no idea that we 
were.  Is anybody else?   And Donovan, what good would it do?  You'd just 
say he was lying.   Carl Westberg Jr.


>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Army Officer Accuses His Generals of Iraq 
>Failures
>Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Sunil,
>
>   You wrote:
>
>   "Bush has said that the military has been sent all the troops they 
>requested.
>Why didn't the generals request more troops from the beginning? Why didn't
>they admit how poorly things were going and put it back in the lap of the
>administration?"
>
>
>   First, the Generals did ask for more troops and did give honest 
>appraisals of the situation, they just did not publish that information for 
>you and the enemy to see in the Washington Post and New York Times.
>
>   Second, there were no more troops to be had.
>
>   Third, more troops wouldn't solve the problem, it would just make the 
>problem larger. The problem was the political objective, not military 
>incompetence. They have guns not magic wands. This was Bush's blunder, not 
>the officers, soldiers, or generals over there.
>
>   Fourth, it is UNACCEPTABLE for an officer to be going to the AP and 
>personally attack his commanding officers. There are proper ways of going 
>about filing a complaint about a misbehaving or incompetent commanding 
>officer. What this guy did was wrong and dangerous.
>
>   Finally, we are still waiting for you to say, "I love my country, the 
>United States of America."
>
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>
>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   Donovan,
>
>On the one hand I don't disagree that the administration 'screwed this war
>up;' having said that, I think wars like this are always going to end in
>failure. But since the war began, up until he announced the 'surge,' Bush
>has said that the military has been sent all the troops they requested.
>Why didn't the generals request more troops from the beginning? Why didn't
>they admit how poorly things were going and put it back in the lap of the
>administration?
>
>It seems to me that generals saw the treatment Gen. Shinseki received after
>saying that four to five hundred thousand troops would be needed for the
>war, and they didn't want the same treatment for themselves. That's their
>fault, isn't it?
>
>Sunil
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: Tom Hansen , thansen at moscow.com,
> >vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Army Officer Accuses His Generals of Iraq
> >Failures
> >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Complaining is one thing. But going to the media and to undermine the
> >command structure of the military during an actual military action is not 
>a
> >right.
> >
> > And I don't believe him anyway. I think it is the administration's fault
> >for screwing this war up, not the generals.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >Donovan
> >
>
>
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