[Vision2020] Is Moscow Ready for Reservoir?

[Bruce and Jean Livingston]

Ted, you rapscallion!   

Indeed last night's MCA reservoir forum was an opportunity to "speculate" on what might be done to address local concerns about water supply, including as a primary focus, trying to address reservoir issues like where would it be; how many, one or a series; what would it cost; how would we pay for one; is it a good idea or not; etc., etc.  The short answer for Nils is that everyone seemed to agree on the need for a feasibility study, and that a site up on the forested, granite slabs near Moscow Mountain seemed promising for a variety of reasons -- cleanliness, less silt, less leakage, less expensive land, and perhaps more recreational opportunity.

Now, for those not privy to my private message to Ted, in which I declined to "speculate" on whether the real reason for recent federal legislation that grossly limits the availability of habeas corpus was to eviscerate habeas corpus (as opposed merely to limiting torture in the name of fighting the war on terror, [as I try to recall the question he posed]), let me say this, so that I may try to shed his label about me being "above" such speculatory "hoi polloi plebian activity."

Habeas corpus has been grossly limited in numerous ways and is continually under attack, not only for non-citizens labeled non-combatants, but for citizens who reside in this country.  I disagree with the various attempts to limit the writ of habeas corpus, whether it be done to non-combatants or citizens on death row.  Limiting habeas corpus directly correlates to increasing the likelihood that the innocent languish in prison.  Period.  It was important enough to explicitly protect in the Constitution (Suspension clause -- Art. I, Sec. 9, Cl. 2), when the Framers of the Constitution recalled George III and his tyranny and abuse of the citizenry through extended incarceration without charges.  The writ of habeas corpus is just as important now.

I  found myself roundly applauding Garrison Keillor's condemnation of the Senate for caving in on the afore-mentioned legislation, gutting habeas corpus, and handing President Bush more tools with which he will cede the moral high ground and bring us down, closer to the level of our enemies.  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0610040035oct04,1,2100411.column

And Ted, I still don't care to speculate on trying to discern the reasons of discrete politicians for agreeing to certain language.  I can't read their minds.  What matters is the plain language that gets enacted.  But I do agree with the importance of the topic and appreciate your heartfelt postings on an important subject of debate.  

Bruce Livingston 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ted Moffett 
  To: Bruce and Jean Livingston 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Moscow Ready for Reservoir?



  Bruce et. al.

  The intentions of this MCA meeting sound like speculation about whether a reservoir is a reasonable solution to the Palouse's future water needs...

  I thought you did not engage in "speculation" on Vision2020?

  Perhaps this post is just advertising a meeting where "speculation" will occur, so you are not engaging in those lowly thought provoking perhaps incorrect ideas that come under the heading of "speculation," on Vision2020.  

  You are above that sort of hoi polloi plebian activity, after all...

  Still respecting your commitment to human rights...

  Ted Moffett

   
  On 10/8/06, Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com> wrote: 
    Reminder: MCA meeting on whether Moscow should consider building a water reservoir.

    MCA General Public Meeting on Monday Oct. 9 at 1912 Building @ 7p.m.
    Water Solutions – Is Moscow Ready for a Reservoir? 
    Panelists:  
    Jerry Fairley, Professor of Hydrogeology, U of Idaho
    Dianne French, founder of Palouse Water Conservation Network
    Gary Riedner, Moscow City Supervisor
    Steve Robischon, Exec. Mgr. of Palouse Basin Aquifer Committee
    Mark Solomon, Palouse Water Conservation Network






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