[Vision2020] recusing, excusing, musing

[keely emerinemix]

Gee, let's just elect people who are too dumb to ever have formed a thought, 
come to an opinion, or uttered anything of substance in public.  While we 
might be surprised at any post-election actions or remarks, we'll know that 
they can be persuaded over the next latte or Dos Equis -- we'll just have to 
make sure we get to them first, and often.

I really do admire people who can navigate through their adult lives, 
especially their public lives, without ever once offending someone with 
their stated convictions.  There's so little going on in Moscow and 
throughout the world that I really can't see the value of, you know, getting 
involved.  You know me -- I'm all about keeping 'em guessing, keeping your 
head down, and keeping nose to grindstone without ever letting any sparks 
fly.

keely


From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,        Jim Meyer 
<m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA CUP appeal hearing/Kimmel/Ament/Pall
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:21:37 -0700

Just like former city councilwoman, now GMA Board member, JoAnn Mack did 
when voting to annex and them amend the comprehensive plan for the property 
next door to that owned by her family?

Mark S.

At 7:14 AM -0700 6/2/06, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>I agree with Jim insofar as that a person should not recuse themselves 
>simply because they have an opinion. However, I do think that someone that 
>is suppose to be making a judgment that impacts many people monetarily 
>should be open minded about the issue. If someone feels that they dislike a 
>group or organization so intently, I think the responsible thing to do is 
>recuse yourself. If you hate or love your neighbor, and you are called to 
>jury duty to hear a case against them, do you think you could openly listen 
>to all the facts and make a fair unbiased decision? If so, you are fine, if 
>you could never vote not guilty, or guilty if you love your neighbor, 
>regardless of the facts presented, you need to step aside.
>
>Take Care,
>
>_DJA
>
>
>
>Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>All,
>What short memory some of us have...Remember Paul Kimmel and his alleged
>conflicts of interest having to do with Christ Church?
>
>The legal definition of conflict of interest means FINANCIAL conflict of
>interest, not conflict of opinions. I would be very, very disappointed
>to see Aaron Ament recuse himself (as I was with Linda Pall when she
>recused herself concerning Wal-Mart (1).
>
>I say to both Aaron and Linda, be leaders, don't be wimps. I didn't vote
>for a wimp. I didn't vote for someone who doesn't have the courage of
>his or her belief. The kind of person I voted for would stand up against
>those who would take advantage of the community for selfish gain. The
>kind of person I voted for wouldn't back down in the face practiced
>lying and subtle manipulation. Like a good parent, the person I voted
>for would call out a lie and cause discomfort rather than be party to
>the lie and thus encouraging more lies. I urge you both to continue to
>fight for what you believe is right for the community. Keep up the good
>work both of you.
>
>I'll end by saying that it is personal belief of mine that to be
>unnecessarily antagonistic is to be polarizing without being productive.
>Lack of tact is not, however, a problem solved by recusal. I am sure
>tact is gained through experience; that is the solution. Let us put
>experience to work and recusal to rest unless, of course, you want to
>revisit Paul Kimmel's past alleged conflicts of interest.
>
>Jim Meyer
>
>(1) / Daily News By Ryan Bentley, Daily News staff writer
>Published: 05-27-2006/ "Councilwoman Linda Pall recused herself due to a
>previous comment she had made while discussing Wal-Mart with a member of
>the Gene Thompson family.“I said, ‘Boy, I sure hope you’re not planning
>a Wal-Mart out there’ Š and in no uncertain terms I said it was a
>terrible idea,” Pall said."
>
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