[Vision2020] The Auntie Establishment and Brother Carl Show(July23, 2006)

[Tony Simpson]

TOM, excellent effort, I must say.  I 'preciate your concerns and would like 
to respond.

1)  Someone who wishes to address nasty attacks on good people cannot 
logically be regarded as a fan of the attackers.

2)  The content and style of Mr. Courtney's blogs are not the subject of 
this discussion.  The mean--spirited and unproductive tone of Auntie and 
Carl IS.

3)  Can you be unaware of the Church Hearings of that period where a 
paranoid, liberal distrust of  ''Da Man" and a lingering, post--Vietnam 
isolationism resulted in a crippling reduction in our intelligence presence 
overseas?  This reduction primarily dealt with HUMINT, or human 
intelligence, individual covert operatives in country.  The resulting 
squelching of inside information left us blind to the planning of our 
enemies.  This emasculation remained unremedied up to 911 when tragedy 
empowered Bush to reinstitute the recruitment and training of such cloak and 
dagger operatives.  Unfortunately, the tragic state of our intelligence 
services, as handed to Bush by that juvenile dipshit, Bill Clinton, will 
take some years to remedy.  Your suggestion that replacing our one time vast 
intelligence apparatus should occur overnight, is a little silly, Tom.

4)  Bush's service in the National Guard has every bit as much value as your 
service in Nam.  We lost a considerable number of Guard troops then, as we 
are loosing them now, in the middle east.  You might note that Bush did not 
flee to England and actively work to subvert his country as your beloved, 
soggy cigar smoker, Bubba Clinton did.  And if Bush is such a coward as you 
so love to gloat, why would he take on a job with far greater statistical 
risk of death than that which you performed in East Asia?  Out of a handful 
of presidents, we have lost to assassination or serious injury, what? 10%? 
So please spare us your self--congratulatory "chicken hawk" horse shit. 
Bush has done more for this country and at considerable personal risk, than 
the bulk of military recruits ever will.

5)  Stop blaming Bush for the difficulties between Lebanon and Israel.  Bush 
has not been homicide bombing innocent Israeli civilians.  He has not been 
lobbing missiles over the border into Israel.  That would be your allies, 
the murderous, 12th century raghead barbarians of Hezbollah.

6)Who necessarily gives a shit what the left leaning A. B. A. has to say 
about Bush?  I'll start listening to those blood suckers the day they start 
supporting tort reform.

7)  In closing, let me thank you, my close personal friend, for a delightful 
and spirited dialog.

Until you once again seek out my company,  --Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Auntie Establishment and Brother Carl 
Show(July23, 2006)


> ToeKnee stated:
>
> "If you folks would present a program that involved more than an orgiastic
> fit of Bush --Bashing, you might actually develop more of an audience than
> your small, like minded coven of bitter losers."
>
> "Small, like-minded coven of bitter losers"?  Tell us TK, does that list
> include the "coven of bitter losers" who post a 7-paragraph response on
> V2020?
>
> TK goes on to mumble:
>
> "There is no hope in this type of program, no positive suggestions, just
> bitter carping."
>
> You mean like "Comb-Over" Courtney's Brainless Log (BLog)?
>
> TK continues his rant with:
>
> " . . . the man [Frank Church] was largely responsible for the 
> emasculation
> of our intelligence services during the 70s and 80s."
>
> Oh, yes, TK, Our intelligence services are so much better now, huh?  It 
> has
> been almost five years since September 11, 2001 and we still can't locate
> Osama bin-Forgotten.  Yet he makes weekly appearances on Classmates.com.
>
> Question, TK:  Just how did Senator Frank Church emasculate our 
> intelligence
> services?
>
> And, as our stomachs continue to turn, TK mutters:
>
> "Take a fresh look at Bush -- Cheney -- Rumsfeld and see what the rest of 
> us
> see: competent and moral adults who have their country's best interests at
> heart.
>
> Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?  Competent, moral adults?
>
> Bush's daddy prevented his son from seeing any active duty by sneaking him
> into the Texas Air National Guard and further slid him into the Alabama 
> Air
> National Guard (where, apparently, Bush's only accomplishments consisted 
> of
> snorting cocaine and getting drunk) when his Texas unit was being 
> activated.
> After graduating from Yale (where he was accepted primarily because his
> daddy attended Yale) with a 2.0 GPA, his daddy rewarded him with two
> businesses, which he promptly sank into bankruptcy.  Don't even get me
> started on the Iraqi War (You remember the Iraqi War, right?  That's that
> little skirmish southeast of Lebanon/Israel where 100+ citizens are being
> killed daily).
>
> Bush?  Competent and moral?  That's not what the American Bar Association
> (which includes a one-time FBI director and a former federal appeals court
> judge) has to say about him:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/24/lawyers.bush.ap/index.html
>
> Cheney?  I can still have a photo of Cheney shaking hands with Saddam
> Hussein.  He might be fun to share a beer with, but I wouldn't go hunting
> with him.
>
> Time and space is far too limited this morning to even think of discussion
> Rumsfeld.
>
> Pro patria,
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
> "Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the 
> tranquil
> and steady dedication of a lifetime."
>
> --Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
>
>
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