[Vision2020] No victims??

[Donovan Arnold]

Tony,
  
  I know you won't answer this question because you ignored my other four, but here it goes anyway.
  
  You wrote:
  
  "Apparently  58 PERCENT of AIDS infections result from the behavior of homosexual  males, with only 11 percent of cases transmitted heterosexually."
  
  So if you conclude that homosexual behavior is wrong because 58% of  contracted cases of AIDS in the United States are because of homosexual  behavior; then do you also conclude  that heterosexuality in  China, India and Africa is wrong because 95% of cases there are created  through sexual behavior of heterosexuals?
  
  Best,
  
  _DJA
  
  

Tony Simpson <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:          Donovan,
   
  You  ask if my complaint about risky sexual behavior in an age of AIDS  should not be about homosexual behavior, but about anal intercourse  among the population at large.
   
  Yes, Don, it should.  And it is.
   
  However,  you may choose to ponder the stats provided by ALERT on the link posted  by Wayne yesterday.  Apparently 58 PERCENT of AIDS infections  result from the behavior of homosexual males, with only 11 percent  of cases transmitted heterosexually.
   
  At some point Don, you might wish to dispense with   all the PC bullshit before we loose another generation to this   plague.
   
  PC dogma be damned, --Tony
      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     Donovan Arnold 
    To: Tony Simpson ; Scott Dredge   
    Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:53 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] No     victims??
    

Tony,

I wish to challenge some of your (mis)conceptions     of homosexuals here;

You state, "Have you not heard of the AIDS epidemic?"     

1) How are two HIV-     monogamously coupled homosexuals more at risk to contract AIDS than a     heterosexually married couple?

"Surely you are aware of the inherent risks of     anal "sex"?"

2)  Heterosexual couples also practice anal intercourse; while not all  homosexuals couples do. Shouldn't your complaint be about the practice  of anal intercourse, not the gender or sexual orientation of the  individuals practicing it?

3) If unmarried gay men are the  principle cause of the spread of AIDS and HIV in our country, should we  not encourage gays to be monogamously coupled, shouldn't you be for gay  marriage, not against it?

"Choosing not to enable the self     destructive"

4)  So you are against the legalization of all things that could be  destructive or dangerous including, fast food, non-helmet use,  abolishing alcohol, gambling, tobacco, pornography, and physical  contact sports?

Best,

_DJA

Tony Simpson     <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:          DIV {   MARGIN: 0px  }                Scott,
       
      Were  you serious when you said that the practice of homosexuality does not  result in anyone being victimized?  Have you not heard of the AIDS  epidemic?  Surely you are aware of the inherent risks of anal  "sex"?
       
      The  human body was obviously NOT DESIGNED to be employed in this  manner.  Therefore, when one engages in such activities, one  deliberately risks his life and the life of his "partner".   If our society genuinely cared for the welfare of homosexuals, it would  strongly advise them to discontinue such unnatural and unhealthy  behaviors, just as it advises against the sharing of needles.
       
      Choosing not to enable the self       destructive,    --Tony
              -----         Original Message ----- 
        From:         Scott         Dredge 
        To:         vision2020 at moscow.com 
        Sent:         Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:30 AM
        Subject:         Re: [Vision2020] The Great Debate
        

                rvcowboy,

There  are clearly victims involved in situations of adultery, rape, cheating,  and stealing.  Not so with homosexuality.  Are you really  unable to see the difference between consenual adult activity and  scenarios of someone viciously hurting someone else?

-Scott
                

"rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>         wrote:
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-- SNIP         --
I agree with you that Jesus' overwhelming 
message is that we         love one another.  I just don't believe that loving one another         justifies our 
sins.  Please understand, I don't rate the sin         of homosexuality any differently than adultrey, 
rape, cheating,         stealing, or any other sin.






        
        
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