[Vision2020] Question about Googling terminology

[Paul Rumelhart]

I worded that poorly.

There was no over-arching term for the community of telephone users.  
Yes telephones changed our culture, but the mass of people calling other 
people never took on a life of it's own.  Likewise, there were lots of 
sub-cultures associated with TV, it changed our lives and our bank 
account balances, but there was no over-arching term for the thing that 
was made up of TVs connected to the system.  The "Internet" has taken on 
a life of it's own because it transcends the computers that gave it 
life.  It's more than just people emailing each other or downloading 
videos.  Because of the interactivity that it made possible, and the 
huge potential that is only slowly becoming realized, it's distinct from 
the "phone system" or the "TV networks" in this regard.  That's all I'm 
saying.  Thus it deserves to be capitalized.

Paul

Donovan Arnold wrote:

> "The phone system, at least to my knowledge, was never thought of as 
> this separate thing that had it's own culture and a life of it's own.  
> Ditto television.  Phones connect one-to-one, not really as part of a 
> community except in the sense that you could call anyone you knew the 
> number for.  Television was mostly one-way, so no community there." 
> Paul Rumelhart
>
> Boy, I am going to have disagree with this statement. I think the 
> telephone and TV have created very noticeable cultures and changes in 
> our society. Telephones connected you with anyone else that had one. 
> It changed the social fabric of society. Same with television. Ever 
> see a Star Trek convention, there is a huge TV culture.
>
> I also think that television is two-way communication; it is just that 
> people don't communicate back in the same manner. They communicate in 
> mass by changing their behavior in response, usually, by buying a 
> product or service they saw advertised.
>
> Best,
>
> _DJA
>
> */Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>     I'd argue that the telephone and the television are the equivalent
>     of the computer, which is always lower case, but there is no
>     equivalent to the multi-headed hydra that is the Internet.  The
>     phone system, at least to my knowledge, was never thought of as
>     this separate thing that had it's own culture and a life of it's
>     own.  Ditto television.  Phones connect one-to-one, not really as
>     part of a community except in the sense that you could call anyone
>     you knew the number for.  Television was mostly one-way, so no
>     community there.  The Internet is, in my mind, different.  It's
>     unique, and deserving of it's capital "I".  It's more like a place
>     than an object.
>
>     Paul
>
>     Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>>     Chas,
>>
>>     So if I use Yahoo Search instead of Googling, am I Yahooing?
>>
>>     I agree that if telephone and television are lowercase, so should
>>     Internet.
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     _DJA
>>
>>     */Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>         On 7/10/06, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>
>>         > OK, so does Googling mean, only using "Google"? Can you
>>         Google on Yahoo, or
>>         > Google by Mr. Jeeves, or does Googling, strictly mean using
>>         Google?
>>
>>         I wouldn't use the word "Googling" to refer to searches
>>         performed on
>>         other services, but I believe that the usage, if it persists,
>>         will
>>         eventually encompass all competing services, if that hasn't
>>         already
>>         started to happen.
>>
>>         > And another question, can Internet be spelled with a little
>>         "i"? Some one
>>         > needs to write an official rules of the Internet book.
>>
>>         I find "internet" ugly, but www.wired.com specifies the small
>>         "i" in
>>         their style book. Logically, I suppose that small "i" makes
>>         sense, as
>>         we don't refer to to "Telephone" and "Television."
>>
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