[Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Walmart

Mon Jan 9 17:13:44 PST 2006

"There are no lies in it or it could not be on TV."-- Phil  Roderick

  I do not know about the validity of this statement. I have seen Fox  News. I have also heard the Bush administration, Congress, and Richard  Nixon on TV. 

  I also am wondering when someone is going to do the Nazi / Wall-Mart comparison. I am sure it is coming up soon. 

  How many ghost towns are around with just a Wal-Mart? I would tend to  think that Wal-Mart would lose money if they wiped a town out of  business. 

  _DJA

Shelly <CJs at turbonet.com> wrote:                Hi Wayne,

  In  reference to the Foreman grill, the specs are derived from Foreman's  personal engineers. Nothing to do with Walmart. Second, people  today (13 year olds) are to lazy to go to another store when it is a  "one stop shop." I think the concept originally came from a book  called, "the bible," where it talks about we will have a one world  government. We know Walmart has expanded into other numerous countries,  let alone dominating the USA. In less than one, single generation.  Quite a feat. Back to that one world government, democracy is  blossoming everywhere. What do you think takes place at the world trade  meetings? Setting prices and tariffs. Hhhhheeeeellloooooooooooooooo !!

  The  only reason the existing Walmart wants to get out of it's present  location is because it cannot have the groceries. Because they know the  only grocery store that is making a strong profit is Winco. Not for  long. They are putting in "two" stores to take out Winco. This will  stop the people from Washington driving over. Although Muscovites might  drive over for the tax savings. Do you really believe the small  communities that put their money together and did a fact finding  mission and has produced a documentary that has aired on  numerous TV stations about how Walmart kills a community. Are you  not able to understand what the documentary is saying? There are no  lies in it or it could not be on TV. Two Walmart's in our small  community? Helllloooooooooooooo. There is an agenda. Wake up! If  Walmart wants a grocery store and the one stop shopping isn't truly an  asset, Tidyman's is available. Please wake up.

  Phil Roderick

  -------Original Message-------

    From: Art Deco
  Date: 01/09/06 10:59:48
  To: Vision 2020
  Subject: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Walmart

  Phil,

  I  cannot be sure of WalMart's corporate intentions.  However, a  little of what you speak of has already occurred at the present WalMart.

  When the Moscow WalMart first opened, they were the price leaders on almost everything.  On  certain items they still are, especially in pharmacy/ drugstore type  products.  However, on many products there is no difference  between their prices and many Moscow businesses.  For example, the  WalMart price for many cleaning supplies is the same price found at  Tri-State.  On certain household items, WinCo prices are lower  than WalMart's.

  In  addition, do not think that the national brand products bought at  WalMart are the same as sold by other area retailers.  WalMart  (and many other big box stores and chains) really puts the price  squeeze on manufacturers.  Hence, the manufacturers value  engineer* the products they produce for WalMart and others.  The  George Foreman Grill that you would buy at WalMart is likely not the  same quality as the one you would buy at Tri-State despite the sameness  of model number.

  WalMart is not the only one to do this, however they seem to be the most predatory in this regard.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com

  *Definitions of Value Engineering on the Web:     
   An  analysis of materials, processes, and products in which functions are  related to cost and from which a selection may be made so as to achieve  the desired function at the lowest overall cost consistent with  performance.
www.lancastercountyheritage.com/planning/cwp/view.asp   

   A  short formal project review, utilizing highly experienced experts in  the project field, to try to identify and recommend alternative  solutions that will add value to the project, by reducing costs or in  other ways. The study follows a formal set procedure for identifying  and evaluating areas of value savings, and usually takes place soon  after a preferred design is identified and estimated. For large  projects, this process is required by most funding sources.
www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/I5DesMoinesWaySouth188St/glossary.html   

   Value  engineering is a functional analysis methodology that identifies and  selects the best value alternative for designs, materials, processes,  systems, and program documentation. VE applies to hardware and  software; development, production, and manufacturing; specifications,  standards, contract requirements, and other acquisition program  documentation; facilities design and construction; and management or  organizational systems and processes to improve the resulting product.
strategicsourcing.navy.mil/reference_documents/defs.cfm   

   Value  Engineering is a technique used to evaluate life cycle costs of  engineering projects. It is a standard activity undertaken by GDOT for  major design projects that recommends potential cost saving  opportunities to the project design team.
www.i16i75.com/index_files/main_files/faq.htm   

   An  organized methodology that identifies and selects the lowest lifecycle  cost options in design, materials and processes that achieves the  desired level of performance, reliability and customer satisfaction. It  seeks to eliminate unnecessary costs in the above areas and is often a  joint effort with cross-functional internal teams and relevant  suppliers.
www.bridgefieldgroup.com/glos9.htm   

   Design proposal to lower the total project cost of construction.
www.fta.dot.gov/library/planning/prob/glossary.html   

   Currently  defined by many government agencies as an organized effort directed at  analyzing the function of construction operations, systems, equipment,  facilities, procedures, methods, and supplies to determine if  anticipated costs are consistent with the requirements for performance,  quality, safety, and maintainability.
www.ecostructure.com/res_glossary.html   

   An  organized effort concerned with the elimination or modification of  anything that contributes to the cost of a contract item or task but is  not necessary for needed performance, quality, maintainability,  reliability or interchangeability. 003
appl.nasa.gov/resources/lexicon/terms_v.html   

   Value  engineering is a branch of industrial engineering in which the value of  a system’s outputs is optimized by crafting the optimum mix of  performance and costs. In most cases this practice identifies and  removes unnecessary expenditures, thereby increasing the value for the  manufacturer and/or their customers. 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_engineering

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shelly 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:17 AM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Walmart

          FROM THE DESK OF PHIL:

  What  short memories everybody has. Remember when Walmart and Kmart came  in? It was death and destruction amongst the business community. Your  neighbor and friends. I think the census data has a major flaw in  it. According to the census data more than a majority of our population  is well educated, but still thinks and acts like they are 13. The  big box stores cause another reaction that you are not paying attention  to. It causes a population shift. People migrate to live closer to  those areas. I also understand that we are thinking of filling in the  corridor between Moscow and Pullman. What's left of our country feel,  will cease. Don't even talk about our precious water that we do  not have.  We will become a new Los Angeles on a microscopic  scale. The rest of the businesses that are hanging on because none of  us are making any real money, will die along with the tax base. 

  Here  is the grand scheme of things. Walmart plans on putting in two huge  stores in a population our size?????? Do not forget that the signs  entering Moscow. They include the entire student population in their  count. I was told about 12,000. Reason? Our community is ignorant to the true business intentions of their power.  They put the two stores in and you gotta remember they truly don't care  if they both make a profit. Their goal is to "dominate" our market. We  will be losing businesses that currently supply us with beds, oil  changes, tires, gasoline, groceries, etc. We will have numerous  businesses join the bankruptcy line so Walmart can fleece our  community of it's core assets. So, you don't need to worry about there  ever being a downtown. Since, most of those businesses are downtown.

  Then  what they do after they have destroyed downtown on the Pullman and  Moscow side, they will "mothball" one of the stores. Notice nothing is  said about the current Moscow store they promised to keep open. Right!  Not born yesterday. You will notice they are not buying the land that  is so they can shut down one after they have killed all of us off and  force everybody to drive to the one that they leave open. 

  Smart  Growth? It is...... for a 13 year old. Let's not even talk about the  land owners surrounding the project. What a boondoggle. 

  Does  anyone know why all of a sudden a full fledge Walmart is now on the  table? Did our representatives or newspaper let us down? Our  representatives should spend 1 hour talking to managers at Safeway  and Rosaurs along with a few others. Talk to some that died on the  first round. Many thought they would survive it. Ha! 

  Remember  ........ the students are only here 6 1/2 months out of the year  and they are counted as part of our community. You guys are worried  about taxes? Half the students live in housing supplied by the  University. More than half receive loans to go to schools. That is our  money once again.

  Phil Roderick

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