[Vision2020] HR 3855

[Phil Nisbet]

Don

Sorry about that.  I do tend to get POed when the poor buggers who work 
trying to make a difference at USFS or at IDL end up getting trashed.  They 
really are trying to make things work and to change forest practices for the 
better.  Its easy for many on the outside to point a finger ;at them and 
blame them for the sins of the fathers.  Its a lot harder to have to go 
through the government grind to slowly make changes happen.

Its easier for the USFS to make those sorts of changes because they have 
such large sources of funding at the federal level.  IDL has a tiny land 
base and the poor old State of Idaho as the only group that can fund them 
and a huge demand for money each and every year to keep the coffers filed 
for education.  But just as the USFS is changing, so is IDL, though more 
slowly due to financial constraints.

I think if you spend some time with the IDL guys, you would realize that 
they want to be able to do more, but they have extreme limits on personnel, 
time and money.  Regardless, I should not have snipped at you and I offer my 
appology.

Phil Nisbet


>From: Don Coombs <mushroom at moscow.com>
>Reply-To: mushroom at moscow.com
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] HR 3855
>Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 13:31:01 -0800
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>Phil Nisbet wrote:
>>Don
>>
>>What the amount of land has to do with it is fairly simple.  You are 
>>citing a few thousands of acres in one bad management area.  I was citing 
>>among others, the Targhee Caribou where the clear cutting was over a 
>>million acres, which is almost more forested land than IDL manages 
>>altogether.  You cite one small creek drainage and I can return to USFS 
>>clear cuts that covered complete River systems.
>>
>>Nobody is without sin here.  The USFS, the BLM, IDL and private timber all 
>>have a lot of bad record to live down.
>>
>
>We can agree on that last.
>
>It makes it easier to agree when you don't call my posting "bullshit" and 
>"hot air," as you did with my previous posting.
>
>Don Coombs
>
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