[Vision2020] St. John Wenders
lfalen
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Mon Dec 4 10:38:31 PST 2006
Thanks Matt and Gary
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 06:05:47 -0800
To: "Matt Decker" mattd2107 at hotmail.com, suehovey at moscow.com, nielsen at uidaho.edu, Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] St. John Wenders
> I'm amazed at Mr.Nielsen and Ms. Hovey's generosity of spirit. That they
> refrain from really letting loose and telling us how they feel is quite an
> amazing example of restraint. The ability to set aside ones personal
> animosities and lament the passing of a fellow member of the community, even
> if only for the sake of the remaining family and friends is a trait that
> most recognize as one of the ones that make us human. To take the
> opportunity of a gentleman's unfortunate demise to bad mouth him,
> considering the fact that rebuttal from beyond is unlikely, is tacky in the
> extreme. I commend Ralph and Sue for their efforts in not coming across as
> those kinds of people.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> To: <suehovey at moscow.com>; <nielsen at uidaho.edu>; <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] St. John Wenders
>
>
> > Sue,
> >
> > WOW! There are few people I could care less if they still grace this earth
> > or not. John, I would not view as one of those. He did ruffle some
> > feathers,
> > but not worthy of death. If a person is going to upset me, they would have
> > to be a murderer, rapist, crack whore. You know, that type. But, one that
> > uses verbab to get under my skin would not warrant a death penalty. I
> > could
> > give a rats ass.
> >
> > I do feel for you Sue. Time to let the man rest in peace, and find his
> > positive side. Heck even I can do that with people I don't agree with.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >>From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> >>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <nielsen at uidaho.edu>,
> >><Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] St. John Wenders
> >>Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:59:07 -0800
> >>
> >>Am I sorry he is dead? No. I would think he did not live his life to his
> >>best potential, for he contributed very little to this community with his
> >>rancor and divisive attitude. I do not know whether one appropriately
> >>views
> >>his behavior as a mistake. I think it derived from his inflated sense of
> >>himself as an authority on tax policy. He told me a few years ago the
> >>education monies expended on my disabled daughter's education were, "a
> >>monumental waste of taxpayer funds." That is his direct quote, and no, I
> >>will never forget his words. I can say with certainty, my daughter,
> >>despite
> >>her disabilites, has made a more positive contribution to this community
> >>and
> >>the people who live here, than Jack Wenders ever did.
> >>
> >>Sue Hovey
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: <nielsen at uidaho.edu>; <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 9:23 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] St. John Wenders
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ralph,
> >> >
> >> > Gee Ralph, what you and Sue have said, almost makes me believe you both
> >> > are
> >> > glad he has passed.
> >> > Let's not forget that we all live life to our fullest and to our best
> >> > potential. We all make mistakes but those little mistakes that you
> >> > don't
> >> > agree with shouldn't be a downer on his life right?
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> >> >>To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> >>Subject: [Vision2020] St. John Wenders
> >> >>Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:47:15 -0800
> >> >>
> >> >>Let us not forget what a saintly man John Wenders was. Although he
> >> >>was only on half-time appointment as a professor at the University of
> >> >>Idaho, he made a deal with then President Richard Gibb for full-time
> >> >>retirement benefits. All this from a government school at the
> >> >>taxpayers' expense.
> >> >>
> >> >>Ralph Nielsen
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:42:05 -0700
> >> >> > To: letters at lmtribune.com
> >> >> > From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> >> >> > Subject: Religion of Wenders
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The article in Turnabout (Sunday, Aug. 1) "Majority spends money of
> >> >> > all on immoral pool" by John Wenders, should have appeared on
> >> >> > Saturday's Religion page. Like most other profit-seeking prophets
> >> >> > in the market-place of wishful thinking, the Rev. Dr. Wenders
> >> >> > pretends that he is saving us from sin--the sin of taxation for the
> >> >> > common good of our fellow citizens. Taxing the citizens of Moscow
> >> >> > for a public swimming pool is immoral, he says. Besides, swimming
> >> >> > is not all that good for young people anyway, at least not for his
> >> >> > sonny boy, whose daddy happens to be wealthy enough to send him to
> >> >> > a private academic summer program.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Religion thrives on persecution, real or imaginary. Thus our latter-
> >> >> > day St. John has also been ridiculed for preaching that if we will
> >> >> > only believe in what he says, we will all be saved. Saved from the
> >> >> > hell of taxation for the good of others besides ourselves.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Another hallmark of organized religion is the hypocrisy of many of
> >> >> > its preachers. According to the prophet Wenders, tax subsidies for
> >> >> > public swimming pools are immoral. But churches pay not a penny of
> >> >> > taxes while they enjoy public services paid for by all taxpayers.
> >> >> > Are they not immoral, too? And aren't subsidies and tax write-offs
> >> >> > for large corporations also sinful?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Let me quote from the gospel according to St. Wenders: "That is
> >> >> > redistribution, pure and simple, something that is antithetical to
> >> >> > every ethical standard." So when will Wenders, our new anointed
> >> >> > one, drive the evil money redistributors from his father's house?
> >> >> > Don't hold your breath, folks. I have a feeling that his
> >> >> > predecessor will show up first.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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