[Vision2020] Lessons

[g. crabtree]

Ms. Lund,  just one simple question. Has the article changed in any way from 
the original posting to the form that Ms. Woolf provided the link to? If 
there's going to be any "intellectual honesty" you will have to admit that 
it has. The original did not make it clear that Gier was the author. The 
fact that the piece has been modified, bears out my contention.

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>; "'J Ford'" 
<privatejf32 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Lessons


> Hi Mr. Crabtree,
>
> You wrote:
> ". . . the New West article to which she refers originally went out sans
> attribution or any mention what so ever of Prof. Nick Gier. . ."
>
> Are you sure?  I think you're wrong.  When I first looked at the 
> article --
> which was before Dale Courtney's mistaken and potentially actionable hissy
> fit --  the correct attribution was at the *bottom* of the article. 
> Perhaps
> you missed it, too?  Or, are you just taking Dale Courtney's word for it?
> If so, *huge* mistake on your part, IMHO.
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> - Edmund Burke
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of g. crabtree
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:17 AM
> To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Lessons
>
> In all fairness, and not that Ms. Woolf will care, the New West article to
> which she refers originally went out sans attribution or any mention what 
> so
> ever of Prof. Nick Gier as the author. This gave the appearance that the
> article was written by Ms. Opyr. When Ms. Opyr and New West made their
> correction, Mr. Courtney withdrew his criticism. This would appear to be
> another case of hysterically shrieking for an apology where none is
> required. A tediously familiar occurrence from certain members of this
> forum.
>
> gc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 2:00 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Lessons
>
>
>> Another perfect example of Dougie's teachings:
>>
>> As in July, and just as his "pastor" had taught him by example, Dale
>> Courtney, on HIS blog, made an accusation that proves the CC/kirkers are
>> not
>> beyond making an accusation without proof and then not apologizing for it
>> when caught.
>>
>> See
>>
>> http://www.newwest.net/index.php/city/article/10748/C136/L136
>>
>> Also just as Dougie has so well trained him, Dale refuses to acknowledge
>> his
>> mistake and take his lumps.  In other words - he messed up and refuses to
>> clean up his mess.  Well, ok - so he took it off his blog, but you can
>> still
>> read his idiocy on the above link.
>>
>> Gee - go figure.  Lesson well taught and lesson well learned.  Dougie 
>> must
>> be SO proud.
>>
>>
>> J  :]
>>
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