[Vision2020] alternative routes

Thu Aug 3 11:29:24 PDT 2006

I think the State is directing the Washington St. project, and either the State or Feds are spending most of the money, not the City, Donovan.  The $500,000 figure to be spent by the City that you quote relates to the Sixth St. reconstruction project.  See the portions of the following DN articles that I cut and pasted, below:

More road construction on the way for Moscow; ITD readies for makeover of Washington Street 

By Emily Thomason, For the Daily News 
Published: 07-03-2006 

Driving through downtown Moscow is about to get a little more complicated. The Idaho Transportation Department plans to begin a $1.4 million project to resurface Washington Street between First and Eighth streets. The project is expected to begin in mid-July. 

City crews already are rebuilding Sixth Street between Adams and Hayes streets, with detours directing traffic toward Third Street. The city also plans to resurface parts of Hayes and Third streets later this summer. Moscow Public Works Director Les MacDonald said the city street projects will not be finished by the time the state project begins. Detours will direct traffic to downtown. 

ITD spokesman Mel Coulter said the Washington Street project will extend until late August or early September. Parking on Washington Street will not be available. Construction meetings will take place weekly, Coulter said. The meetings will be open to the public and will give people the opportunity to express their concerns. 

Moscow roadwork begins Monday; expect delays 

Staff report 
Published: 06-10-2006 

Moscow drivers can expect to run into delays and detours as road construction on Sixth Street between Adams and Hayes streets begins on Monday. The city of Moscow has selected S & S Contracting, Inc. of Lewiston to perform the reconstruction at a cost of $556,000. The placement of construction and detour signs will begin on Monday and demolition and other construction will follow. Moscow Director of Engineering Services Dave Klatt said traffic will be detoured away from Sixth Street to Third Street at Jefferson and Hayes streets. 

The Idaho Department of Transportation construction project on Washington Street will affect the routing of Sixth Street traffic at the intersection where the two streets meet. 

Your points about the ideal time for scheduling are well taken and would have occurred as such in a perfect world.  Sorry it didn't work out.  I'm handling it all just fine on my bicycle.  Also, there still is a cross walk operating at Fifth St. and Washington.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donovan Arnold 
  To: Bruce and Jean Livingston ; Sunil Ramalingam ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes

  Bruce,

  Something about your story doesn't make any sense. Why is the City spending $500,000+ on road construction if it has no say? Are you saying that the federal and state government can spend out city monies for us without say?

  Second, I don't think anyone is saying we have a problem with construction being done. We have a problem with not being properly notified and how they are doing the project and the rate in which it is taking. Shutting down the only two major east west thoroughfares at the same time late in the summer when students are coming back is just bad planning. They should start the construction two weeks after school starts and continue till two weeks before it starts. Then space out the projects so we only have one major road shut down at a time. Perhaps do Main, then Sixth, then Third, not all three in the same 6 week period of time when school is in session. If the city cannot influence the schedule of the federal or state construction, they should change the city's construction schedule which they do control. 

  Best,

  _DJA

  Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com> wrote:
    Not only was notice given some time ago, but the local authorities have 
    relatively little to say about any of it, as I understand. The work is 
    being done on the highway that goes through town. I don't know whether it 
    is federal or state authorities running the show, as both state Hwy 8 and US 
    Hwy 95 run concurrently up Washington, but this project is being driven by 
    the highway authorities, not the City, so far as I can tell. I also seem to 
    remember reading that the "staggering the project over time"option was 
    considered and rejected based on increased costs of doing that. Recent 
    stories have stated that the project is expected to take about 5-6 weeks.

    Bruce Livingston

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Sunil Ramalingam" 
    To: 
    Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:14 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes

    > Tom,
    >
    > I know I read about the construction work at the beginning of the summer. 
    > I
    > don't recall if it was on V2020 or in the paper, but in answer to your 
    > first
    > question, there was notice of this work.
    >
    > Can't answer the others.
    >
    > Sunil
    >
    >
    >>From: "Tom Hansen" 
    >>To: "Joan Opyr" , "'Moscow Vision 2020'"
    >>
    >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] alternative routes
    >>Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:47:12 -0700
    >>
    >>Realizing that nobody is willing to answer the questions I posted
    >>yesterday:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>"1) Why wasn't the community given advance notice of such renovation?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>2) When were the plans for such renovation/construction completed?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>3) Who is/was responsible for informing the community?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>4) Were other options considered (staggering the projects over a few years
    >>versus an all-at-once approach)?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>5) What are the time factors involved in each project?"
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Perhaps we here on V2020 can work this out on our own. I am serious, 
    >>guys.
    >>Let's pull together, ok?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>For those of you knowledgeable about the various road
    >>closings/construction,
    >>I would appreciate your reviewing the map at:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>http://www.tomandrodna.com/images/Moscow/vandalville.htm
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>I would also further appreciate any detailed description you can give me
    >>concerning the closed streets, for instance:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>"X Street closed between Y Avenue and Z Avenue."
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>I will then update the map to reflect closed streets and streets under
    >>construction with red lines. And continuously post the map as changes
    >>occur.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>How about it guys?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>Tom Hansen
    >>
    >
    >
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