[Vision2020] Do not rebuild New Orleans

[Donovan Arnold]

I agree with Pat Kraut on not repairing and rebuilding
New Orleans. You cannot build a city below sea level
on the coast that is strong enough against a Category
5 hurricane. 

When the city of New Orleans was first built it was
not on the coast. It had 1.5 million acres of wetland
protecting it from the ocean. It does not anymore. As
the global warming heats up the ocean is only getting
higher and storms more frequent. 

It is criminal negligence to build four concrete walls
in the ocean, drain the water between them and put 1
million people in there, of which 100,000 cannot get
out when one of the walls breaks and drowns them.

If we rebuild New Orleans and another category 5 comes
along, which it will, are we going to spend another
100 billion and another 3,000 lives? Do we not learn
putting a city below the sea is a BAD idea if the
federal, state and local governments are not going to
invest funds to maintain its safety? I for one will
not support this tragedy from occurring again. We
should be spending our money to help the victims, not
from setting ourselves up to re-experience this all
over again.

If you want rebuilding of New Orleans than you either
support human suffering or you trust the federal,
state, and local governments to keep them safe. I do
not trust them, especially after this response. 

Donovan J Arnold



 

--- Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:

> I do not want us to repair any more levees.
> Something is terribly wrong when you can stand on a
> street and see ships go by above you! This is an
> opportunity for the area to move back and let the
> ocean have its land back. Just how much money do you
> think it would take to 'study' it one more time.
> Just how much do we spend to 'save' New Orleans?? It
> really isn't that 'special' a city! It is time to go
> a totally different direction.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tom Hansen 
>   To: 'Andreas Schou' ; 'Pat Kraut' 
>   Cc: 'vision2020' 
>   Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 6:12 AM
>   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
> 
> 
>   I am with you 100%, Andreas.
> 
>    
> 
>   Under our current president, FEMA was relegated to
> being a sub-agency within Homeland Security, thus
> drastically reducing its budget.
> 
>    
> 
>   And who does Bush appoint as Under Secretary of
> Homeland Security for Emergency Preparedness and
> Response (FEMA)?
> 
>    
> 
>   Michael D. Brown, a former Colorado and Oklahoma
> attorney and former bar examiner on ethics and
> professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme
> Court, a person with virtually no experience in
> emergency management.  An attorney in charge of our
> nation's emergency management?  He may not be able
> to solve anything, but he will most certainly be
> able to put some serious spin on his responses to
> questions.
> 
>    
> 
>   Ms Kraut stated:
> 
>    
> 
>   "Why does everyone want to make the Fed
> responsible for everything?? When did they take
> over?"
> 
>    
> 
>   HUH??  What part of "Federal Emergency Management"
> are you struggling with, Ms Kraut?
> 
>    
> 
>   FEMA is struggling to identify additional large
> temporary holding facilities (comparable to the
> Houston Astrodome).  This is a simple question that
> should have been addressed a couple years ago when
> the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of
> Louisiana were seeking federal funds to repair the
> 17th Street levee.
> 
>    
> 
>   But then, we wouldn't want to interrupt George
> Bush's vacation with something so trivial now, would
> we?
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>   Tom Hansen
> 
>   Moscow, Idaho
> 
>    
> 
>   "If not us, who?
>   If not now, when?"
> 
>   - Unknown
>     
> 
> 
>
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> 
>   From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of
> Andreas Schou
>   Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:02 PM
>   To: Pat Kraut
>   Cc: vision2020
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Of Deltas and CO2
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>   On 9/3/05, Pat Kraut <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote: 
> 
>   I disagree! Someone in Louisiana should have told
> her! Why does everyone
>   want to make the Fed responsible for everything??
> When did they take over? 
>   The locals could have done whole rescue operation
> if they had paid
>   attention. There is a picture circulating showing
> the school buses all under
>   water. The mayor could have confiscated them and
> sent those people out of 
>   town by force. But, he keeps yelling about the
> feds not coming in time! He
>   is just hoping no one asks him too many
> questions.\
> 
>    
> 
>   Pat --
> 
>    
> 
>   It is the federal government's responsibility,
> like it or not, to do disaster relief. You can argue
> about whether or not it should be their
> responsibility later, but the fact is, at the time
> of Hurricane Katrina, it was FEMA's responsibility
> to handle the evacuation planning and then pick up
> the pieces. 
> 
>    
> 
>   George W. had put a chronic fuck-up in charge of
> FEMA who was fired from his last job for
> malfeasance, dismantled their planning office as it
> transitioned to the Department of Homeland Security,
> sent the Louisiana National Guard to search for
> phantom WMDs in Iraq, cut all disaster mitigation
> funding to the /entire state/ of Louisiana, and
> defunded the levees. It is at his desk that the buck
> stops, but he and his stand-ins are doing their best
> to blame everybody else: the victims, the first
> responders, the police, the looters. Thisis a
> failure of management at the highest levels: food
> was dropped in Banda Aceh, Indonesia, within /two
> days/ of the tsunami. Food got to New Orleans, LA,
> /today/, or six days after the hurricane. We are a
> first-world nation. This should not be happening
> here. 
> 
>    
> 
>   If I had done this in my work, I would have had my
> ass canned, and then I would have been sued, and for
> God's sake, they would have been right to do it,
> too. This administration has abdicated any pretense
> of taking responsibility for its 
> 
>    
> 
>   -- ACS
> 
> 
>    
> >
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