[Vision2020] Homosexuality

[lfalen]

The answer to the question is  yes. The discussion between Wayne Joe, Keely, and Michael has been very interesting. Scott asks the question about being a "good" Christian. There are many people who claim to be Christians, just how good they are is debatable. In ireland the Prodistants and Catholics kill one another. Both are supposed to Christians. Not my idea of what christions are supposed to be. A "ggod" christian in my opinion would not condemn other's,but except other beliefs and as the bible says " turn the other check".  Most people are not able to do this. This does not mean that they are insincere in thier beliefs, only that they are human.

Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Scott Dredge sdredge at yahoo.com
Date: Thu,  3 Nov 2005 23:27:33 -0800
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Homosexuality

> Michael,
> 
> I realize that you've posed this question to Keely,
> but since you are airing this out in public, here's my
> take on this issue...
> 
> Each person is endowed by their Creator with certain
> unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
> and the pursuit of Happiness.
> 
> In general, adults are free to engage in whatever
> consensual activities they want to engage in as long
> as they aren't hurting anyone else.
> 
> If you're wondering why I'm not directly answering
> your questions on whether or not homosexuality is a
> sin it's because it's irrelevant to me.  I don't care
> whether or not it's a sin as interpreted by some
> religious zealot pulling arbitrary passages out of -
> God only knows - whatever translated and hacked up
> version of whatever Bible suits his or her hate speech
> of the day condemning homosexuality.
> 
> I find it very un-Christian that so-called "followers
> of Christ" so harshly condemn other human beings who
> are harming no one.
> 
> Question back to you Michael, in the weakest possible
> way I can ask it...in your opinion, can a person who
> happens to harbor no ill will towards homosexuals, and
> thus does not condemn homosexuality, still be a good
> Christian?
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> --- Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Keely,
> >  
> > Maybe it will help to at least come to agreement for
> > now about what it would
> > mean to answer this question either way. Here's how
> > I would understand the
> > weakest possible version of question: if
> > homosexuality is part of our sin
> > condition, that would mean that God did not design
> > or intend the sexs and
> > sexuality for a homosexual union. This sort of
> > behavior is not what God
> > intended originally in virtue of creation. On the
> > other hand, if
> > homosexuality is NOT part of our sin condition, then
> > it is perfectly natural
> > in virtue of creation; God fully intended it and
> > designed the sexes and
> > sexuality for a homosexual union. Or perhaps a
> > different way of stating this
> > weak version of the question is to simply ask: Is
> > homosexuality a result of
> > the fall?
> > 
> 
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