[Vision2020] Palouse Empire Mall rejects Public Transportation...

[Donovan Arnold]

Garrett,

Where I am concerned is for the people that cannot
drive that need to get their groceries. 

There are many persons who are students, elderly,
foreigners, or disabled that cannot get to the grocery
store because they do have a car or cannot drive. 

The number of cars at Win-co is also going to decline
in the future anyway when you consider the fact that
many Pullman shoppers will be going to the WalMart
Supercenter for their groceries.

My suggestion is that maybe Wal Mart will allow bus
drop off in their lots. They might enjoy all the
business from Moscow for groceries since the mall
refuses to allow them to go to Win-Co. 

Just a thought anyway.

Thanks,

Donovan J Arnold


--- Garrett Clevenger <onewildearth at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks to all who commented on my original email.
> 
> The mall has decided to prevent the bus from making
> a stop there because 
> people are parking their cars in the UI owned
> parking lot which allegedly 
> keeps shoppers from being able to park there.
> 
> The problem with their reasoning is that there is
> still plenty of space to 
> park.
> 
> When was the last time any body noticed that the
> mall parking lot was full?  
> Maybe on days where they have car sales, but even
> then, there are places to 
> park.
> 
> The parking lot is meant for cars to park in.  Why
> not use it to its 
> capacity?
> 
> This parking lot is enormous.  It seems odd to kick
> the bus out because 30 
> or 40 cars are being parked by bus riders.  At the
> very least, the stop 
> could be at the Office Depot end of the lot, which
> always looks like there's 
> plenty of room to park.
> 
> The amount of people the bus brings in daily to the
> mall is greater than 40 
> people.  Those people would either not shop at the
> mall, walk or ride their 
> bikes, or drive their cars instead, thus still use
> the parking lot for the 
> same number or more of parking spaces.
> 
> Thus, if anything, the mall is benefiting by getting
> more shoppers to spend 
> their money there and use less parking spaces total.
> 
> Public transportation is intended to lesson the need
> for parking lots.  
> That's why UI and WSU support the bus, so they don't
> have to build more 
> parking lots.
> 
> The mall should have encourged people to ride the
> bus to the mall instead of 
> driving.  The mall should not have looked at the bus
> as a drain to them, but 
> rather as an asset to bring shoppers in and as a a
> way to prevent more cars 
> from being parked there.
> 
> The thing that saddens me most is that the mall
> management just doesn't see 
> the value in public transportation.   They would
> rather have people 
> contribute to traffic congestion than ride the bus
> to the mall.  They are 
> unwilling to support a valuable community asset.
> 
> That seems short sighted and not the way to build a
> communtiy.
> 
> We should be encouraging the use of public
> transportation, not limit its 
> routes.
> 
> Garrett Clevenger
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Garrett Clevenger" <onewildearth at hotmail.com>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:41 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Palouse Empire Mall rejects
> Public Transportation...
> 
> 
> >I regret to inform fellow bus travellers and public
> transportation
> >supporters that the Palouse Empire Mall has decided
> to not let the
> Wheatland
> >Express bus (the one that transports between
> Pullman and Moscow) stop at
> the
> >mall anymore, effective June 1.
> >
> >The bus brings hundreds of shoppers to the mall
> from Pullman monthly (and
> >many from Moscow, too) particularly students from
> WSU.  I imagine
> thousands
> >of dollars are spent there from shoppers who have
> no other way to get to
> the
> >mall except by bus.
> >
> >Everyone I've talked to about this is perplexed by
> the mall management's
> >decision (they have not gotten back to me about why
> they decided this)
> >though one reason I heard is because too many
> people are parking their
> cars
> >at the mall when they take the bus (considering how
> much room is left in
> the
> >parking lot and that the bus brings people who
> don't need to park, this is
> >an insufficient reason)
> >
> >If I owned or worked at a store at the mall I'd be
> pretty upset that the
> >mall management is basically saying they don't want
> bus rider business.
> >
> >I've been riding the bus since 1997 and have seen
> the mall hassle the bus
> by
> >moving the stop in the parking lot multiple times.
> >
> >This decision, however, is a shock to us riders and
> is pretty frustrating.
> >Perhaps the Pullman rider shoppers will head to
> downtown Moscow instead,
> but
> >I bet they'll stick to shopping in Pullman,
> particularly if the super
> >wallmart opens.
> >
> >This is bad not just for mall businesses, but for
> the bus because it
> lessons
> >bus ridership which is not good to insure its
> success.  Plus, having
> >cross-pollination between the two towns is good for
> both communities.
> >
> >If you know mall people, please let them know. 
> Perhaps their clout could
> >convince the mall management to keep the bus stop
> at the mall.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Garrett Clevenger
> >
> >http://www.icehouse.net/garrett
> >
> >"What are we doing to our Home?!:("
> 
> 
>
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