[Vision2020] NSA not a college?

[Donovan Arnold]

Ted,

“your statement asserts that NSA is defined as a kind
of institution they are not claiming to be.” 

Yes, I am!!! (puts finger on his nose). Glad you
picked up on that that I was trying to making. 

“You can either admit that you think they are a kind
of institution
they claim they are NOT,”

Admit, Admit!! That is my point I was trying to make,
sweet bananas, heavens to Betsy! It is within the
realm of possibilities in this universe that I can
have separate reasons from NSA as to why the complaint
is wrong, that point is based on LAW.


You need to understand. I do not care what NSA calls
itself. It can call itself whatever it wants, it call
itself a retail store, hospital, nursing school, or
petting zoo. Nor does it matter from a legal
standpoint. NSA does not have the legal authority to
claim it is an “Educational Institution”, hospital, or
petting zoo. The city code defines that. City code
states what qualifies an institution as a hospital,
petting zoo, or “Educational Institution”. NSA does
not meet that qualification. 

Let us just pretend that I agree with you that NSA is
NOT a “Commercial School.” It does not change my
argument one bit.  Here is why:

The complaint states that NSA should not be downtown
because it is an “Educational Institution” according
to city code. There may be other reasons why NSA is
illegal downtown, like they do not fit another
definition of a zoning code, they are over occupancy,
the color of the building, the bricks are too old,
etc. But that is not what the complaint was about. The
complaint was about it being in a CZ and an
“Educational Institution” is forbidden in a CZ. Read
it yourself:
http://www.zonemoscow.com/city/complaint.html

So my argument is that NSA does not fit the definition
of an “Educational Institution” as defined by city
code. The city code expressly says that it must be
accredited by the State Board of Education. NSA is not
accredited by the State Board of Education. Therefore
it does not fit. 

And I do not care who you think said what based on
someone who thought they heard another person confirm
it by being at a meeting back some time ago because
nobody’s statements are going to change what the law
said when NSA located downtown. 

The law is clear. An “Educational Institution” MUST be
accredited by the State Board of Education in the
state of Idaho according to city code.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold   








--- Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
> Donovan wrote:
> 
> It does however, fit the definition of a
> "Trade/commercial school".
> 
> This statement is what I focused on in my comment
> today regarding what
> definition fits NSA.  NSA is not claiming they are a
> "trade/commercial
> school."  So your comment above contradicts NSA's
> own description
> regarding how they define themselves  Whether or not
> you are intending
> to have any inside knowledge of how NSA defines
> itself, or have any
> knowledge whatsoever of NSA's intentions regarding
> anything, your
> statement asserts that NSA is defined as a kind of
> institution they
> are not claiming to be.
> 
> You can either admit that you think they are a kind
> of institution
> they claim they are NOT, or you can retract your
> statement that you
> believe NSA to be defined as a "trade/commercial
> school," or you can
> provide verifiable evidence that NSA seeks to be
> defined or is now
> defining itself as a "trade/commercial school."
> 
> Regardless of what legal arguments you are making,
> if you base them on
> NSA being defined as a "trade/commercial school,"
> you are
> contradicting NSA's own assessments of what sort of
> institution they
> are, as far as the statements that I have read from
> NSA spokespeople
> indicate.
> 
> You very clearly dodged the central point of my post
> today that you
> answered today.  I trust the above clarification
> will explain my
> reasoning.
> 
> Ted Moffett
> 
> 
> On 5/14/05, Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Mr. Moffett,
> > 
> > Thank you for your comments. Please allow me to
> > qualify my statements and position.
> > 
> > You wrote,
> > 
> > "Are you saying you understand the law and the
> > intentions of NSA that impacts their legal status
> more
> > than NSA does?"
> > 
> > You misunderstand, I NOT attempting to defend or
> > protect NSA. I am not privy to the long or short
> term
> > interests of NSA. I am arguing that the law is not
> > being followed.
> > 
> > The complaint filed is premised on the prospect
> that
> > New St.Andrews is an "Educational Institution" as
> > defined by City Code. It is NOT because it is not
> an
> > accredited institution. The institution MUST be
> > accredited by the Idaho State Board of Education
> or an
> > agency recognized by them. That is the law.
> PERIOD.
> > 
> > To force NSA out, without legal authorization is
> not
> > legal enforcement, it is mob mentality. If NSA is
> > violating the law by being downtown they need to
> file
> > a complaint that is consistent with the law, not
> > contrary to it and hope emotions and feelings
> float it
> > through.
> > 
> > If NSA gets accredited, by the Idaho State Board
> of
> > Education, then they would no longer be allowed
> > downtown. But they are not accredited.
> > 
> > To ignore the law to enforce the law makes law
> inane.
> > 
> > Take Care,
> > 
> > Donovan J Arnold
> > 
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> > 
> >
> 
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