[Vision2020] Response to Hall

[David M. Budge]

Nick Gier wrote:

"When I studied the Reformation in graduate school I focused on Luther 
and not Calvin"

Good choice Nick, both then and now.

db

> Dear Mr. Hall,
>
> When I studied the Reformation in graduate school I focused on Luther 
> and not Calvin, so that is why I defer to Robbins and Gerety (R&G) and 
> summarize their book against Wilson.  In their discussion about what 
> it is to be a Christian, R&G did not mention Wilson's "second sense" 
> of being a Christian because they presumably did not find fault with 
> it.  They do, however, disagree with you and Wilson that baptism 
> alone, and presumably because it is public and objective, means that 
> one has joined the Covenant and is somehow a "believing Christian."  
> You will have to engage R&G in a direct debate about the biblical 
> passages they say that Wilson cannot use to support such a broad and 
> liberal first condition for being a Christian. 
>
>         With regard to the creeds, I commend you and your church for 
> embracing previous traditions, but the issue here is whether your 
> eclecticism is consistent with what most other Reformed evangelicals 
> believe.  R&G object to the fact that Wilson gives these creeds 
> authority that only the Bible can have. Affirming them may make you an 
> orthodox Christian, but it does not make you a Reformed Christian. 
>
> Again you will have to engage R&G in their specific criticisms.
>
> Thanks for the dialogue,
>
> Nick Gier
>
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