[Vision2020] forced to decide am I a troll?

Wed Jan 26 10:57:24 PST 2005

Mr. Force, if that is your real name, I am not a Troll. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> <o:p> </o:p>

Is it not possible that I am exactly what I say I am? &nbsp; <o:p> </o:p>

I am a prosperous long-term member of this community, even more so than most of you. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Over the years, I have seen the protests, maybe even participated in more than a few. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">I know most of you.  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I can no longer sit back and listen as time and again you move your insidious agenda along. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> So my self and several other prominent citizens are stepping forward to tell you in your own words "Not in our name ever" <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I have no problem with homosexuality, what is wrong is that such an aspect of human sexuality has been taken over by extremist left-wing radicals. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I am sure the gay readers here are somewhat ashamed at what some aspects of the so-called queer agenda. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Hey if you want to live together, or get married in a church great, just don't expect a government license to do so. <o:p> </o:p>

The government licenses marriage and gives its approval in order to encourage men and women to marry and have children. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

This is and will remain a Christian nation and nothing you do will change that. most people find your lifestyle wrong. Live with it. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN> <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I have no problem with religious beliefs or lack them, if you do not want to believe in god that's between you and god. But you cannot disparage Christmas, churches, prayer or those who believe in god. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

This is a community forum; My views are the same as the majority of people who live in the community. They are not extremist they are simply the views of most of Idaho. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Why do they sound so extreme to you? Simple, people are afraid to speak <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">Out to leftists. <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

You never hear what folks say once you are not around. People are much too polite to light off a liberal rant. You sole sources of information <o:p> </o:p>

Comes from other liberals who also do not know the truth. <o:p> </o:p>

This is why you where so surprised to have lost the last election, and will continue to be surprised until you understand that you are the minority. And not 49%, you realize that liberals are really much less common than that, the vast majority of your so called constituency are people who voted for one reason or another but definitely not because they were liberal. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I will examine if I am in fact a troll. Lets see Mr. force has provided us with a simple troll test. I wonder where he finds the time from protesting life? &nbsp; <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

How can troll posts be recognised? <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>* False Identity - Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this <o:p> </o:p>

is not a strong indicator on its own! <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

I choose to protect my identity so as to avoid physical retribution. <o:p> </o:p>

Such as broken windows, spit on my door, or of course the ever popular boycott. Failed this test. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>* Crossposting - Any post that is crossposted to several groups should <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

perspective. Why would someone do that? <o:p> </o:p>

I have never cross posted. In fact I have never posted anywhere on the net. Failed this test. <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>* Off-topic posting - Often genuine errors, but, if from an 'outsider' <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

is simply netiquette; if it's a troll post, you have denied it its reward. <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

I believe all posts here are on topic, My first post "Is liberalism a disease" was particularly on topic as everyone knows this is a reservoir of that particular belief system. We want to discuss the issues but first felt that we needed to feel out who had a set agenda. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Issues that we want to address are those that are truly important to this county. It may seem odd to wish to discuss things like property rights, voters rights, land use ordinances, and such as opposed to whether or not the NSA should be allowed to stay in Moscow. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

As far as that goes, they all could be a bunch of nut jobs who cares. They went through the licensing process, they are properly zoned and they own the building. <o:p> </o:p>

If they wanted to open a strip club for Jesus you cannot stop it without violating the fundamental property rights that we enjoy in this great nation. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </SPAN>* Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll - or a pedant; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

either way, treatment as a troll is effective. <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>* Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question - they <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle - so they develop a fine line in <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

missing the point. <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

I don't believe that is the issue, some people have thick heads and it takes awhile. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>* Thick or Sad - Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

Conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and <o:p> </o:p>

feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls - rigged <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

to always say "above 150"... <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

I believe one of your more literate members raised the I.Q. question first, does that make Donovan a troll then? <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I have a wide group of friends in my social circle including a couple of liberals, a loving wife, and several well cared for pets. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

I have noticed in more than a few posts that some of your members tend to bully anyone who expresses a non-approved opinion. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">  <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Perhaps the board should get together and create a 3-day waiting period in order to read or write anything. This would allow the moderators to remove anything offensive to Moscow's progressive sensibilities. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Am I a Troll? You decide. <o:p> </o:p>

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'"> <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;  </SPAN>Citizen x <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

 <B> <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> </B> 

Helping one sheep at a time, move along. <o:p> </o:p>

 <SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-family: 'Courier New'">&nbsp; <o:p> </o:p> </SPAN> 

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