[Vision2020] Social Security Time Lime
David M. Budge
dave at davebudge.com
Wed Feb 9 15:30:32 PST 2005
Donovan,
You put up a good argument filled with reasoning of conventional
wisdom. Conventional wisdom, however, has inherent flaws, of which I
will address one at a time.
First, let's begin with the personal. I am not abjectly against the
redistribution of wealth. Having said that, perhaps my innocent
daughter was reflecting my general disdain for government. I can assure
you, however, that I do not talk about political philosophy with her as
eight year-olds tend to care less about politics, the tax structure, and
the balance between efficiency and equity. But we'll get to that
later. I was so struck by her comments because of their naive
innocence, not because I was a proud "indoctrinater" of a malleable
mind. Directionally, however, I agree with her broader notion.
Secondly, one must be cautious in confusing Libertarians with
libertarians, as one can be catholic in faith while being a Protestant,
if you get my drift. I am a small "l" libertarian, and I reject the
radicalism of the Libertarian party on pragmatic grounds. The party
attracts more anarchists than it does libertarians and political parties
are not ideologically pure. Let's take an example:
Libertarian Party members would suggest that property rights are supreme
over community interests. You are correct in that assumption. But, the
notable godfathers of libertarian economics, Ludwig Von Misses,
Freidreich Hayek, and Milton Freidman all acknowledge the existance of
"pubic goods" such as air, water, defense, roads etc. Accordingly, in
the extreme, a Libertarian would say "this is my land and I'll construct
a nuclear reactor on it if I choose" while a libertarian ideologue would
"Hell you are, that will potentially infringe upon my liberty."
Accordingly, libertarians can take strong environmental stands without
violating the tenets of libertarianism. Ownership is important, but it
does not usurp anyone's liberty.
So now that we have a bit of context, let me address your (with all due
respect) somewhat screedy diatribe.
You said: "First, they assume that everything is somebody's stuff (money
or wealth) regardless of how they got it. "
Not so, we've already addressed the issue of "public goods." Also,
libertarians would impose the full burden of remedy on anyone who would
cause damage to such goods. If you ruin my community's water, you must
remedy it. Obviously, there is debate on the definition of "damage" and
the ensuing disputes need to be addressed in the "common law" constructs
of society, also a libertarian tenet. Additonally, if wealth is gained
through means that infringe on anyone's liberties, such as theft or
fraud, libertarians would demand justice both in the form of
compensation as well as punishment. Ergo, libertarians are not economic
anarchists and well understand the need for government and the rule of law.
Addressing your concern on the exploitation of workers. Indeed there
have been abuses, but capitalism portends the better trade-off between
equity and efficiency than do engineered economies. I trust, by your
writing, that you have studied Trotsky and Marx but I would recommend
(if for nothing else to give you grounds to argue your point better)
reading "The Road To Serfdom" by Hayek if you have not. I'm not
insisting that capitalism is a panacea and, although I can empirically
prove that socialism fails, it defies logic to say: if socialism is
wrong capitalism is right. The failure of test A has no bering on the
outcome of test B. There may be a third way but I have yet to find it.
Yet, we can argue shades of gray all day long and we'll end up at the
starting point I'm afraid. The extent of socialism in our society will
remain debatable through time. I would suggest that, regarding the
redistribution of wealth, we do find cause for supporting those who
cannot support themselves such as the infirm and the insane. It may be
construed that certain people qualify as "public goods" (if that's not
too coarse) and thus need appropriate husbandry. I have a related post
on my blog at http://davebudge.com/index.php?p=137 to prove that I'm not
a heartless ratbastard capitalist. I invite you to both read it and
comment on it if you care to.
Next you say: "...most taxes go to benefit the rich, not the poor or
those that don't have wealth."
Your logic falls flat. The rich and the middle class (or as W would say
- the ownership society) pay almost all of the taxes. One can argue
then that the level of benefit from government services is somewhat
egalitarian. If you use more, you pay more. This, however, is a red
herring too in many ways. The social safety net in our current system
benefits the the middle class much more than the rich. Fully one third
of the federal budget goes to non-descretionary entitlements though
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and federal pensions. The
recipient's of these programs are the 13% of population over age 65.
Those who are poor, about 11% of seniors, constitute 1% of the total
population. Seniors' households own fully 60'% of the national wealth.
Our scheme of redistribution places the burden on citizens owning 40% of
the wealth transferring assets to those owning 60% of the wealth. It's
mind boggling and defies both core objectives of libertarians and
progressives. If the objective is to redistribute wealth from the rich
to the poor, we're doing a damn poor job of it. In this inefficiency I
have to agree with my daughter; that's stealing.
Next you say: "Libertarians forget that the purpose of a society is to
exist, grow, and have the highest quality of life possible for as many
people as possible in the society." I direct you back to Hayek and also
Friedman's "Economics and Freedom" and tell me if you still hold this
belief. Society benefits in the absence of intrusive government - all
of us. But that is not to say that government has no role and this is a
poor venue to argue economic theory.
An issue you didn't bring up, and I'm surprised as the topic is usually
a hot button for progressives, is corporate welfare. The current
rantings in libertarian think tanks, like the Cato Institution and the
libertarian uber-publication Reason Magazine (http://www/reason.com),
spend almost as much time criticizing the federal government for
corporate welfare as they do arguing about the deleterious effects of
over-regulation. You may find it interesting in that respect. You will
also find that the vast majority of libertarians are against the war in
Iraq, pro gay marriage, against the wasteful war on drugs, against the
patriot act and ardent defenders of gun rights. I have many nuanced
differences with pure libertarian ideologues, but I agree more with
libertarians than I do with either republicans, democrats, or
progressives (note the lack of capitalization.)
Lastly, I love a good argument, but I find when the starting point is a
broad brush stereotype I become verbose and often times strident. I
have accomplished the former here. This, however, came about by your
unabashed willingness to pigeonhole me and other libertarians into a
stereotype that is wrong both factually and perceptibly.
I like the discussion and encourage more. I promise to keep the
hyperbole to a minimum.
A relevant quotes to close:
"Man's fatal flaw is taking what he thinks to be correct as the truth."
- anonymous
Dave Budge
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