[Vision2020] evangelicals vs. fundamentalists
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Feb 8 21:36:19 PST 2005
It might be instructive to point out that, sociologically, the American
Christian spectrum has often been represented by a five-point scale. Left
to right, conveniently, sociologists have often categorized American
Christiandom thusly:
"God is dead," Liberal, Mainstream, Evangelical, Fundamentalist
While Evangelicals hold to the seven fundamentals of the faith (elucidated,
I believe, by R.A. Torrey in the 1920s), they are characterized by their
willingness to engage with culture and individual nonbelievers in an attempt
to spread the Gospel, unlike classic fundamentalists, who are largely
suspicious of secular science and academia, modernism and cultural
engagement. Billy Graham and Tony Campolo typify the mindset of the
Evangelical and Bob Jones and Jerry Falwell are correctly referred to as a
fundamentalists. This scale doesn't, however, classify charismatics and
Pentecostals separately, as they generally find themselves in the
Evangelical tradition.
By the way, based on what I remember from my university career of
20-something years ago, the seven fundamentals are, in no particular order:
the deity of Christ, his atonement on the cross, his imminent and personal
return to the earth, the virgin birth, his physical resurrection from the
dead, the Godhead as Triune, and the sinfulness of humankind. I may be
wrong on the last two -- Nick, any corrections?
And yes, to the chagrin of many and the encouragement of some, I am an
Evangelical . . . just one who's often mortified at the conduct of other
Evangelicals, but eternally impressed by Christ . . .
keely emerine mix
From: "David M. Budge" <dave at davebudge.com>
To: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Moscow Taliban
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:43:53 +0000
I applaud the call to protest and I've no use for radical fundamentalists,
but as I digested Dr. Gier's missive over the past several hours, I became
increasingly troubled by the broad brush with which he paints
"fundamentalists".
I am not either a fundamentalist Christian or an evangelical. I do, however,
have many friends who are. Although I do not embrace their spiritual
construct, I accept their beliefs while knowing that faith is the leap of
personal understanding where science can show no proof. What arrogance would
I display if I held that my faith were true and others' were false? This is
the primary argument against fundamentalism - the belief that the literal
reading of scripture are true and non-believers are lost. So the antithesis
must also be true for those who deny fundamentalist their beliefs. This
appears as intolerance of intolerance - defying the tenets of Lockean
liberalism.
It is estimated that 30% to 40% of Americans are either fundamentalist or
evangelical Christians. Most, who I know, are hard working loving people
who largely keep to themselves. Baptist and Pentecostal organizations
provide a great deal of charity and give a meaningful and productive
worldview for millions of people. For those of us who will not subscribe to
their religious edicts, we are protected by the rule of law and the Bill of
Rights. Those, our tools to maintain liberty, must vigorously be used to
protect our right to speak in the public square. Likewise, we must protect
their's as well.
As I said, I've no use for radical fundamentalists and, taking the linkage
between Wilson and Monroe as likely true given the evidence, it is
desirable to protest the radical ideology that may eventually infringe upon
the quality of life and personal liberties of the community. Accordingly I
applaud the call to arms. But, I think it would be more helpful while
appealing to a larger constituency if we addressed our concerns to the
villains at hand rather than call into question the religious liberties of a
third of our countrymen. After all, influence is politics. Just a
thought...
Dave Budge
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