[Vision2020] Bad news reporting
Saundra Lund
sslund at adelphia.net
Wed Aug 24 21:55:41 PDT 2005
[My apologies if this shows up twice -- I sent it a couple an hour or so
ago, but it seems to have disappeared in cyberspace.]
Gee . . . I guess I would have expected Donovan Arnold, of all people, to
have a little better understanding of the ethics involved given the hissy
fit he pitched when Rep. Tom Trail used Donovan's own words from V2020
postings in a manner to which Donovan objected ;-) IIRC, the the lack of
"credibility" and "integrity" were chief among Donovan's complaints about
the practice. But, perhaps he's forgotten that . . .
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.
Edmund Burke
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-----Original Message-----
From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:53 PM
To: Saundra Lund; 'Pat Kraut'; 'vision2020'
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
"I also want to provide a heads-up that nothing posted
on V2020 is safe from thieves." Ms. Lund
Ms. Lund,
Are you aware that anything posted on Vision 2020 is public property, thus
nobody can steal it?
Air, sidewalks, and material posted on Vision2020 is free usage for anyone
that can access them.
Donovan J Arnold
--- Saundra Lund <sslund at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Hi Pat,
>
> Did you miss this part of the Web site you sent to V2020?
>
> " "Gold star mothers" is a term that came into general use with the
> creation of the service flags used to show that a family had a son in
> the service (a blue star) or a son that had died in the service (a
> gold star covering the blue star). Mothers of slain servicemen came to
> be known as gold star mothers. The phrase is sometimes capitalized but
> this is incorrect because it is not the proper name of any
> organization.
> ***The phrase is generic and,
> through customary usage has come to designate any mother whose child
> has been lost in war***."
> http://www.goldstarmoms.com/agsm/FAQs/FAQs.htm
> [Emphasis is mine. SL]
>
> So . . . what exactly is your complaint? It seems to me the usage is
> absolutely correct: Cindy Sheehan lost a beloved child in the war,
> thus she
> *is* a gold star mother. It actually seems pretty disrespectful to me
> to try to take issue with the *correct* labeling of her as a gold star
> mother
> -- even if you disagree with her politics, I can't imagine that you
> want to in any way want to trivialize or minimize her tragic loss.
> I'm sure that's not your intention, so I just wanted to point out
> that's how it might sound to some who don't know otherwise.
>
> BTW, Visionaries, I also want to provide a heads-up that nothing
> posted on V2020 is safe from thieves. Christ Church's Dale Courtney
> continues to pilfer from posts here for his Hate-Log, even when he's
> been made absolutely aware that some of us don't want our material
> stolen and posted for his own twisted purposes on his Hate-Log. Just
> another crystal clear example of his complete lack of respect for the
> wishes of those who don't share his views .
> . .
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
> do nothing.
> Edmund Burke
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2005, Saundra
> Lund.
> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
> forum without the express written permission of the
> author.*****
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Pat Kraut
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:07 PM
> To: vision2020
> Subject: [Vision2020] Bad news reporting
>
> The news programs are all calling Cindy Sheehan a 'Gold Star' mother
> as though the Gold Star mothers endorsed her activities.
> http://www.goldstarmoms.com/agsm/Home/index.htm
>
> They don't! The media is misleading one more time.
> PK
>
>
> I can't be a Republican...I have always been gainfully employed!
>
>
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