[Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time
tocutCrosswalknumbers
Donovan Arnold
donovanarnold at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 11 22:22:36 PDT 2005
Dick,
You are the only person I have ever heard advocate solving the oil usage
problem by driving more and not walking.
Here is two questions for you. If there is not an intersection for 1 miles,
should a person have to walk 1 mile to the cross walk and 1 mile back just
to get to the other side? And second, why does a pedestrian walk across the
road?
Take Care,
Donovan J Arnold
>From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt at moscow.com>
>To: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>, "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time
>tocutCrosswalknumbers
>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:55:19 -0700
>
>Wayne,
>
>There are quite a few crosswalks which are NOT at intersections in Moscow.
>There are without a doubt too many crosswalks on main arterials. Paint over
>the white lines with black paint and take down the signs. It is very easy.
>
>Dick
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Art Deco
> To: Vision 2020
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>cutCrosswalknumbers
>
>
> Dick, et al,
>
> From the Idaho Driver's Manual, page 2-4 (emphasis added):
>
> Right-of-Way and Yielding
>
> Idaho law defines when a vehicle or pedestrian must yield the
>right-of-way,
>
> letting another vehicle or pedestrian pass through an intersection
>first.
>
> Always remember that right-of-way is something to be given, not taken.
>
> Pedestrians and Right of Way
>
> Motor vehicles must yield to pedestrians when:
>
> . The pedestrian is in a marked or unmarked crosswalk at an
>
> intersection.
>
> . The vehicle is entering a street from an alley or driveway.
>
> . The pedestrian is a blind person walking with a white cane or
>
> seeing eye dog.
>
> Pedestrians must yield to motor vehicles when:
>
> . The pedestrian is crossing a street where there is no crosswalk or
>
> intersection.
>
> . Directed to do so by a traffic signal at an intersection or crosswalk.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick Schmidt
> To: Art Deco ; nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ; pegh at uidaho.edu
>; jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to cut
>Crosswalknumbers
>
>
> Wayne,
>
> The only other town I have been in that has anything as severe or
>comes close to the number of pedestrian crossing as Moscow is Gatlinburg,
>TN a true tourist town. They have a sign when you enter town explaining
>that pedestrians have the right of way. I have traveled a lot of states and
>never have seen the amount of pedestrian crossings that Moscow has. It was
>fine when gas was $0.59 a gallon but it is more than 4 times higher than
>that now. I have never heard of a law that pedestrians have the right of
>way except for the above. Moscow may have some sort of horse & buggy law on
>the books but others don't.
>
> Dick Schmidt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Art Deco
> To: Dick Schmidt ; nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ;
>pegh at uidaho.edu ; jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>cut Crosswalknumbers
>
>
> Dick,
>
> I am afraid I disagree with you on this one:
>
> 1. Unless the law has changed, pedestrians have the right of way
>at all intersections in all 50 states.
>
> 2. To avoid the energy wasting stops (and reduce the probability
>of accidents): everyone that can should drive less; walk more.
>
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick Schmidt
> To: nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ; pegh at uidaho.edu ;
>jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:23 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to cut
>Crosswalknumbers
>
>
> All,
>
> I have noticed the huge amount of pedestrian crosswalks in the
>city. With gas prices at $2.50 a gallon it is time to cut the number of
>crosswalks, where traffic must stop solely for a pedestrian, by at least
>half and you probably could cut 2/3 and still have adequate crosswalks.
>Every time you cause a 4,000 vehicle to stop it wastes gas and pollutes the
>air. Think of all the trucks that have to stop at the same crossings.
>
> I particularly noticed on 3rd street between Hayes St. and Line
>St. there are 15 crosswalks not including the 3 stoplights between them. In
>the main part of town there are 4 crosswalks on Jackson and 9 on Washington
>St. in addition to 2 stop lights on both streets.
>
> There will be some who whine that we need to have them for our
>college students but these college students aren't paying my gas bills.
>This situation just adds more unnecessary costs to the cost of living in
>Moscow which is already very high. They can learn to cross where there is a
>light to get to the downtown area.
>
> I hope you will look into this situation and right after school
>lets out next month would be an excellent time to implement this.
>
> Dick Schmidt
>
>
>
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