[Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open
dickschmidt at moscow.com
dickschmidt at moscow.com
Wed Sep 29 20:33:43 PDT 2004
Melynda,
I went to your website www.immigrationforum.org and found it to be a touchy
feeley, huggy huggy, kissy kissy, love thy illegal immigrant site. I now
invite you to take a look at http://www.wsp.wa.gov/crime/wanted.htm so you
can take a look at some of those folks who are coming across our southern
border in the dead of night. Notice that out of 26 pictures it appears that 24
are of hispanic orgin. Can you imagine what the percentage of hispanics are in
our jails and prisons? Did someone say they aren't costing us any money?
At one time we had an excellent program that brought in hispanic migrants to
work our fields and at that time they were paid a decent wage, were provided
decent housing with running water, santary facilities that had to meet program
standards and there was some sort of medical help but don't know how that
worked. They would work a long summer, save their money and go back to Mexico,
Jamaica or Hati for the winter and lived a pretty good life. The big farmers
and corporate farmers bitched about having to pay them so much so the farmers
bitched to their congressmen such as Larry Craig as they gave them huge sums
of money for their reelection so the program was scrapped. Now they are being
taken advantage of and because they are illegal they can't say anything.
If a program was set up to allow them to come in for 9 or 10 months a year to
work, if the border was guarded, fenced and word put out that anyone trying to
sneak in would be shot it would end many of our problems. I would not be in
favor of issuing a "shoot" order unless there was a proper program in place to
allow them in legally. The program would have to be watched or monitored and
the workers guaranteed a living wage, housing & some type of medical care
somehow provided by the program. It pisses me off big time to see these people
taken advantage of by the big cry baby farmers who own our prostitute
legislators.
Please excuse the spelling as I am in Great Falls, MT tonight on my laptop on
WiFi in my room using First Step Internet "away from home service" and don't
have spell check. This types pretty slow too!!
Dick Schmidt
> As nearly any reputable economist could tell you, immigrants generate money
> in the U.S. economy. It is simply not true that immigrants--documented or
> not--drain the resources of our nation. Undocumented immigrants are not
> eligible for most social services, including welfare and food stamps. They
> are not eligible for Social Security or unemployment benefits, although they
> frequently pay into those systems through payroll taxes. Documented
> immigrants contribute to the economy, do not receive benefits at a higher
> rate than those of us born in the U.S., and generate a net surplus of nearly
> $30 billion dollars each year. Recent immigrants (both documented and
> undocumented) commit fewer crimes per capita than their U.S. born peers.
> They have substantially lower rates of drug addiction, too. But don't take
> my word for it:
>
> www.immigrationforum.org
>
> A source with an agenda, to be sure, but a very reputable one, with
> substantial research resources at its disposal.
>
> The "things" you're suggesting we shoot, Dick, are human beings, from whose
> exploitation you and I benefit--far from not being able to afford them, we
> presently enjoy substantially lower prices on any number of agricultural
> products, such as fresh fruits and vegetables, *because* of their poorly
> compensated, dangerous, and despised labor.
>
> Melynda Huskey
>
>
>
> >From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt at moscow.com>
> >To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>, <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open
> >theUS-MexicanBoarder?"
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:42:58 -0700
> >
> >Donovan,
> >
> >I can't believe you are even asking such a question. And you graduated UI?
> >Illegal immigrants are draining the resources of our country in hospitals,
> >jails, prisons and social services. We can't afford them. I would be more
> >in
> >favor of shooting everything that came across the border illegally both on
> >our north and south borders.
> >
> >Dick Schmidt
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
> >To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:24 PM
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open the
> >US-MexicanBoarder?"
> >
> >
> > > I fail to understand why it is that everyone seems to want to keep the
> > > boarder closed between the US and Mexico.
> > >
> > > Who cares if Mexicans comes into the country? If they are not granted
> > > citizenship, it is not like they are a threat to real US jobs.
> > >
> > > If seems to me that the major problems caused by immigration are caused
> >not
> > > by the crossing of the boarder, but by the illegalization of crossing
> >the
> > > boarder.
> > >
> > > Please explain to me why it such a big deal if Mexicans come and go as
> >they
> > > please into this country and buy our stuff?
> > >
> > > Donovan J Arnold
> > >
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