[Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open theUS-MexicanBoarder?"

[Donovan Arnold]

Mr. Hansen,

1) I never stated they we wouldn't check people's ID when they cross the 
boarder. "Open Boarder" means that you can cross it when ever you want just 
as long as you obey the law, just like the Canadian Boarder.

2) It would more obvious to people if someone was crossing the boarder 
illegally if they could do so legally at certain check points. Only the 
criminals and terrorists would be crossing in illegal places and those with 
something to hide. When you force non-criminals to act the same ways a 
terrorists and criminals you are not going to be able to distinguish between 
the two.

3) We would know who enters the country instead of having 2-3 million people 
every year that we don't know.

4) People are going to cross the boarder anyway, why not at least check and 
see who they are and make the terrorists and criminals a little more obvious 
to the boarder patrol.

Please provide a more reasonable argument for not allowing anyone to cross 
the boarder


Donovan J Arnold

>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>To: "'Donovan Arnold'" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>, <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open 
>theUS-MexicanBoarder?"
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:12:47 -0700
>
>Now here is a whole new level of brilliance.
>
>Everybody is seriously concerned with breaches and violations in homeland
>security.
>
>Mr. Arnold's remedy:  Open the border.  No visas.  No passports.  No
>security checks.
>
>NEWS FLASH, Mr. Arnold!  Mexicans are not the only people that cross into
>the contiguous mainland states (or the Great Forty-Eight as I like to call
>them).
>
>I wonder if they sell Henry Weinhards up in Calgary, Canada.
>
>Don't feel too lonely, Mr. Arnold.  President Bush The Appointed (versus 
>his
>father, President Bush The Elected) wants to provide temporary work visas 
>to
>those crossing into the Great Forty-Eight from our neighbors to the south.
>Again, no sufficient security checks.
>
>I wonder if they can use a good website/database deginer up in Calgary.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Not In Calgary, Not Ever (Ay!)
>
>We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some 
>are
>dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors....but they all
>exist very nicely in the same box.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:24 PM
>To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open the
>US-MexicanBoarder?"
>
>I fail to understand why it is that everyone seems to want to keep the
>boarder closed between the US and Mexico.
>
>Who cares if  Mexicans comes into the country? If they are not granted
>citizenship, it is not like they are a threat to real US jobs.
>
>If seems to me that the major problems caused by immigration are caused not
>by the crossing of the boarder, but by the illegalization of crossing the
>boarder.
>
>Please explain to me why it such a big deal if Mexicans come and go as they
>please into this country and buy our stuff?
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
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