[Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
JSullivan
jsullivan@moscow.com
Mon, 3 May 2004 20:12:11 -0700
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YO!!! TOM!!!=20
I just sent the "reply to all" that he did. Thought they might want to =
know "the rest of the story" and all that... Is there a problem with =
that????=20
*as she frantically looks up the online address to the National =
Enquirer*
Now! I am REALLY off to plant those seeds!
Sleep well!
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tom Hansen=20
To: JSullivan ; Art Deco aka W. Fox ; Vision 2020=20
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Yo, Janesta!
It seems that you CC'd this to every newspaper in the free world but =
the National Enquirer. Don't you like them?
Enquiring minds want to know.
Take care,
Tom Hansen
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of JSullivan
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:58 PM
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox; Vision 2020
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News; LuJane Nisse Publisher; Sharon Kehoe; =
Vera White Daily News; Murf Raquet Daily News; Ralph Nielsen
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
I feel in the political climate we are living in these days, ALL =
ideas are important and have an impact on each and every one of us. We =
need to stand up, and shout if need be, so that our voices are heard =
above the din of King George's rhetoric. HOWEVER, that said, when =
something is sent to another PRIVATELY, it should remain private, unless =
the person receiving it gets permission to share it from the sender, =
with the rest of the group. I belong to a paying chat site, if a private =
message were shared, the person sharing it would be flamed but good! =
Believe me, it is NOT a pretty sight!
Yes, I did send the post below to the rest of the vision2020 group, =
as I felt since my privacy was breeched, I wanted people to know how I =
felt about it.=20
I graciously accept your apology. I understand how things can get =
under the "heat of the moment".=20
Let this be a lesson to us all, that in the future, we take a deep =
breath, maybe six or ten deep breaths... read our replies over... and =
over... and over... and only THEN, press the send key.
May you all enjoy this pleasant spring evening! I am heading outside =
now to plant a few crawling, viney flowering seeds for my fencelines. =
You know what "they" say... Good fences make good neighbors? I thought I =
would make mine pretty. *soft laugh*
Enjoy the week!
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
To: JSullivan ; Vision 2020=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon =
Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Janesta,
I am sorry if I did not notice that your previous message to me =
was not sent to all Vision 2020 readers.
The [Vision 2020] heading was in the subject. Once seeing that, I =
carelessly did not look at To: address. That was my mistake. Had I =
noticed the differences in addresses, I would have responded to you =
privately. I again apologize for not noticing the solo addressee on =
your email.
In some cases private messages resulting from Vision 2020 posts =
have been posted to the entire forum for a variety of reasons. Your =
post was one that had I been more careful, I would not have forwarded. =
I notice, however, the post below was sent to the entire forum.
However, you did raise a legitimate issue: What ideas are =
allowable and how are they to be allowed to be expressed on Vision 2020? =
=20
Perhaps, there are as many different opinions on this matter as =
there are Vision 2020 posters. We now have some idea of what Don =
Coombs' opinion is.
From my previous answer you can tell that I was one of those that =
saw more than prudishness when John Ashcroft covered the bare breasts of =
Justice. His shrouding action was symbolic of his closed approach to =
what should be public business and open to robust and varied discussion.
Thank you for your open remarks; I sincerely hope that you can =
forgive my egregious mistake in accidentally making a private =
communication public.
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JSullivan=20
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox ; Vision 2020=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon =
Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult =
Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Is it a normal practice to forward on a private message from one =
party to the other, in this forum..... to everyone? I am a very private =
person, and don't appreciate this one iota. You can write whatever you =
want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my private opinion to you, =
reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that you are a person =
lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? *nodding* =
I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in lawyers doing =
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about "doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my =
private message to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you =
SHOULD.=20
As a matter of fact, I DO use the delete key on a regular basis. =
Less so these days, since the religious haggling has died down somewhat. =
Good day, Mr. Fox.
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
To: Vision 2020=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon =
Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult =
Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Janesta and those that share her point of view [all or in =
part],
Thank you for your comments.
It would miraculous and surprising if everyone one =
participating in an online or other forum agreed with or was pleased by =
everything everyone else wrote.
If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 posts and =
responses correctly, many participants express a great variety of =
responses to other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, =
disgust, helplessness, amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, =
etc. are evident. This is to be expected in an open, public forum in a =
community with a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression, =
talents, subjects of interest, and gradients of education and knowledge. =
Also to be considered: although many claim to, observations lead one =
to believe that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the =
universe is too complicated to be understood by a single person or =
group.
While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I appreciate =
his terse humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, persistent =
commentary, and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, =
cutting irony, sarcasm, and willingness to research facts. Although I =
seldom agreed with Dale Courtney, I respected his willingness to present =
statistics and graphs to argue his point of view. I appreciate Tom =
Hansen's sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, caring allied =
website. I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to see =
exactly where he is coming from and learn from it. LuJane and I have =
quite different worldviews. The list could go on and on.
Each individual has their own point of view and preferences.
Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a writer has his =
choice of many different literary devices. Depending on the =
circumstances, subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts to =
choose, perhaps in error, the most effective devices to reach their =
goals.
You find the device I used in the post at issue to be =
tasteless and objectionable. There is no doubt that it is quite graphic =
parody -- a device sometimes used by other Vision 2020 posters and =
surprise: millions of other writers. Depending on their point of view =
and life's experience, some readers might find such graphic parody =
extreme. Those that participate in national on-line forums and/or =
frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not find it so.
I purposely changed the title of the thread at issue so as to =
warn potential readers. When seeing the title "Inspirational Story of =
the Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the content =
would not be as tame or as civil as would the content expected in a post =
entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village." Delete keys have their =
uses.
I hope that most of us can agree that free expression of ideas =
and the way chosen to express those ideas is one of the most important, =
fundamental elements of an open, secular society. Just as you are free =
to say what you wish and how to say it, others are also. That is what =
makes us free.
Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving opinions to =
express and how to express them to reach certain goals. It would be an =
exercise in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would have a =
desirable, persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading =
audience. I entertain no such hopes. In fact, I would be happy for a =
5% positive response; perhaps even that is too high.
Thank you again for your feedback. Your (or anyone else's) =
censorious use of the delete key for any of my future posts would =
certainly be understandable and not at all objectionable. However, =
please consider allowing each individual the freedom to decide what to =
do with any particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor =
without help from the rest of us.
Respectfully,
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JSullivan=20
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult =
Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
While I find little to concur with these days regarding Mr. =
Wilson, and what he espouses, and I do consider myself "normal". I find =
this exercise in writing to be in very poor taste for this forum. It =
shows a real lack of dignity and class on your part, Mr. Fox. I fail to =
see the humor in it. Am I alone in feeling this way?
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
To: Vision 2020 ; Saundra Lund=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; =
Sharon Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph =
Nielsen=20
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult =
Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Saundra (and other Normal Folks),
=20
Thank you for your Vision 2020 reposting, appropriately on =
Sunday, of some of Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson's views on women.
=20
Wilson's deep, gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence =
producing fear and massive ignorance of women as well as his quavering =
horror of castration torturously screams out from his writings. =
However, it is too late for him to worry about losing his balls. Fait =
Accompli.
=20
Further, it is particularly uncanny that you raised the =
issue of the Cult Master's testicles at this particular time!
=20
I've just been updated about their status by inside man =
Gray Greenphlegm (Zoomie's Bakery, Booger's Coffee House, Greenphlegm =
Coffee, Balls and Crotch Book Stall, etc.). The true story of the =
misadventures of the Cult Master's balls is a marvelous, divinely =
inspired, modern religious parable.
=20
We last heard of the Cult Master's balls when they were in =
the hands (no pun intended) of Rose Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her =
wit of pathetic Douglas Wilson's balls.
=20
Rose was exhibiting these singular objects around the =
Palouse not only because they formerly belonged to the Cult Master, but =
because of their curious, unexpected properties. First, coming from =
such a large, obese man the testicles were tiny and underdeveloped. =
Second, they were not ovoid but round like those of a hyena. Third, =
they were not flesh colored but were an amazing bright scarlet. "They =
look like rotten miniature beets!" exclaimed both attorney Gregor =
Dickistoosmal and Aaron Retch of the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.
=20
Rose Huskey is a practical woman. For exhibition =
purposes, she was carrying the Cult Master's testicles around in a =
zip-lock bag. Unfortunately, she was almost run down in that dangerous =
crosswalk by the Moscow Police Station. During her scurry, she =
accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson's balls.
=20
Fortunately, they were immediately found by Eileen I. =
Wantout, famous, eccentric Moscow sculptress and member of the Christ =
Church Cult.
=20
It is well known that an insanely driving creative urge =
sometimes seizes and possesses Ms. Wantout. This time the urge hit her =
when she was in a semi-comatose state induced by listening to one of =
Douglas Wilson's taped sermons. In her impaired state she mistook the =
Cult Master's balls for play-dough. She then tried to fashion them into =
shapes of small animals and religious icons. Unfortunately, this did =
not work.
=20
Giving her effort up as a lost cause, Eileen returned the =
Cult Master's mangled balls to their zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put =
them in her purse. Like Thales of yore, Eileen sometimes wanders about =
with her wits focused on things other than where she is going or what =
she is doing. Consequently, her purse was snatched.
=20
When the snatcher opened the purse to extract its =
treasures, the first thing he discovered was the Cult Master's tiny, =
mangled balls. This so thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he =
threw the zip-lock bag with the tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes =
into the first automobile with an open window he found.
=20
Miraculously, the receiving vessel belonged to Norma =
Stonewell, internationally famous painter. Stonewell had recently and =
graciously volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting for =
the University of Idaho's Women's Center. She was artistically blocked, =
however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the right =
color for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic conception.
=20
Talk about divine serendipity! The Cult Master's balls =
were exactly the natural color Stonewell was looking for!
=20
The rest is history. Stonewell immediately took the Cult =
Master's testicles to her studio. Norma then crushed and ground Douglas =
Wilson's balls with her massive mortar and pestle, adding secret =
ingredients and thus making pigment from them. She then painted =
feverishly for several weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of =
classical religious allegory.
=20
As most of you know the painting depicts a young woman =
standing triumphantly over the body of a dead pastor who had just =
ordered her death by stoning in a great, blithering rage. The young =
woman had dared to declare that women have the same rights as men! The =
pastor depicted in the painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the =
gluttonous Douglas Wilson.
=20
Exhibiting a brilliant stroke of divinely inspired, =
stunning symbolism and subtext, the painting clearly shows that the =
pastor choked to death after swallowing a gargantuan gob of eagle feces. =
There is no other reasonable interpretation than this massive, =
multi-colored, amorphous mass fell from the sky just as the pastor was =
looking upward exhorting God to visit holy, heinous, basaltic vengeance =
on the young woman.
=20
Stonewell's vivid, meticulous portraiture of the nearby, =
still circling eagle and the scrupulously detailed partially =
saliva-covered flecks and jagged clumps of eagle feces spewed in and =
around the mouth and beard of the dead pastor (whose lips and interior =
mouth were colored in part using the pigment described above) are =
considered to be the finest examples of micro-detailing in the history =
of painting. In fact, as most know, Stonewell unanimously won the Nobel =
Prize for this magnificent work of art as well as unanimously winning =
many other prestigious awards. Many claim that in voting for all these =
awards, the juries were directly guided by the hand of God.
=20
Norma Stonewell's painting, entitled "God Drops a Hint", =
adorns a wall of the UI Women's Center. Despite having lost his balls, =
this exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel especially =
warm and prickly all over: His former testicles are now helping to =
inspire women of all ages, races, and sexual orientations toward =
achieving full equality and full self-realization.
=20
In a previous posting the following was mentioned when =
Wilson's son-in-law, Ben Merkle, also lost his balls also to Rose =
Huskey's castrating wit. (Now, Ben's balls are enshrined in the giant =
jar of pickled eggs at the Corner Club.) According to the Know-Alls at =
Christian Bestiality, testicles from an Athabaskan pygmy goat could =
normally be transplanted onto the Cult Master. This was diligently and =
strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a failure. The =
goat testicles rejected the patient.
=20
Sincerely,
=20
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>; "'Vision =
2020'" <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be =
able to choose to defend their country
| Hi Mr. Fox,
|=20
| I'm not at all surprised by Wilson's Absent Without =
Leave blog entry. For
| the benefit of new V2020 members and for those who may =
have missed it the
| first time around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why =
Moscow?" post from a
| couple of months ago.
|=20
| Wilson has written:
| "If those who hate the Word of God can succeed in =
getting Christians to be
| embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that =
portion will
| continually be employed as a battering ram against the =
godly principles that
| are currently under attack. In our day, three of the =
principal issues are
| abortion, feminism, and sodomy."
| http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm
|=20
| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his church's =
position on "abortion,
| feminism, and sodomy." <sigh>
|=20
| However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to =
equal rights for
| women is rabid enough that should women be allowed in =
combat to defend our
| country, he would advocate the following?
|=20
| "The American military is currently acting the part of a =
weak sister. The
| pressure is on to bring women into combat roles. . . =
Indications of our
| cultural dissolution are legion these days, but this one =
ranks in the top
| five . . . A nation defended by her women is a nation no =
longer worth
| defending. When women are placed in the front line of =
defense, every
| Christian man should walk away from the cause of that =
nation as being
| beneath contempt. Taking this a step further, a nation =
as far gone as to
| think that women in combat is a viable way to go is a =
nation which is no
| longer defensible in principle-even if there remains a =
misguided desire to
| defend it. Men who understand their duties in this =
regard . . . should
| recognize that the result of all our evangelical =
dithering about is that the
| nation which we call the United States has already been =
lost."
| http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php
|=20
| Wow!
|=20
| Since the US is already "lost," what, then, is a man to =
do? Well, never
| fear because Wilson has your answer, and it offers =
further insight into his
| empire building here in Moscow:
|=20
| "Families should begin congregating in communities where =
these duties are
| understood, and the men of those communities have every =
intention of
| fulfilling those duties. Christian men who are in the =
military should get
| out at the first lawful opportunity and move to a =
community where they may
| defend their families instead of their current unwilling =
defense of the
| feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in =
Deuteronomy 22:5 is one
| which blindsides us. We knew abortion and homosexuality =
were abominations."
|=20
| Double-wow!! So, is it Wilson's perception that *our* =
Moscow community
| *doesn't* support women's rights (among other things)??? =
I guess he thinks
| it doesn't really matter what our community values since =
his empire is
| recruiting people to move to our community who share his =
desires for a
| theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) =
that has to start
| someplace, so he's targeted our community as the first =
step :-( That seems
| clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations =
otherwise.
|=20
| I hope and pray this community will continue to wake up =
and smell Wilson's
| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's necessary to =
speak out against such
| wickedness. He has a very clearly stated agenda that I =
believe is abhorrent
| to our community and flatly antithetical to what makes =
our community Moscow.
|=20
| But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it! =
Go straight to the
| horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published words. =
Compare and contrast
| what he says when he's talking to others who share his =
beliefs with what he
| says when he's addressing those who don't share his =
particular flavor of
| Christianity. As a community, I hope we will continue =
to use our collective
| critical thinking skills to keep the wool from being =
pulled over our eyes.
|=20
| So, please remind me again: who is it that's supposed =
to be intolerant???
|=20
|=20
| Saundra Lund
| Proud Intoleristas
| Moscow, ID
|=20
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
| Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM
| To: Vision 2020
| Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be =
able to choose to
| defend their country
|=20
|=20
| Normal Folks,
|=20
| The following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly =
say "dildo"[you can
| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master =
Douglas Wilson's
| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) www.dougwils.com.=20
|=20
| Not only should women be disallowed from being on the =
board of his two-bit
| cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time =
of his initial
| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of =
Finland were women),
| but apparently women should not be given the freedom to =
choose how they wish
| to serve their country!
|=20
| It also appears that it is more important to the Cult =
Master that he win his
| private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it =
is for the U.S. to
| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion =
(assuming one is
| possible).
|=20
| Can you say "pathological egomaniacal megalomania" or =
the less polite
| equivalent?
|=20
| Wayne
|=20
| Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
| deco@moscow.com
|=20
| __________________________________________________
| Absent Without Leave
| Topic: Current Events
|=20
| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be =
gleaned from it. And
| not all the lessons have anything to do with the =
tactical details of this
| particular war.
|=20
| One of the most strking things about this conflict is =
that when I see
| talking heads on the teevee talking about it, whether =
they support or oppose
| the war, whether they are conservative or liberal, they =
always manage to get
| in something about how they of course support "our brave =
men and women" in
| uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" =
-- we have a
| showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed =
conservative leaders do not
| have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural conflict =
we are in.
| Apparently victory in Iraq is important enough that we =
should purchase it
| through fundamental defeats here at home.
|=20
| When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, where =
are the leading
| conservative spokesmen who take the opportunity to raise =
the point and press
| it? Why does no one point out that the abomination is, =
you know, abominable?
| Of course, they don't do it then out of consideration =
for the grieving
| families. And they don't do it later because there is no =
reason to when the
| heat is off. For all the saber-rattling conservatives =
can do when it comes
| to fighting backward nations with high-tech weaponry, =
when it comes to an
| issue that might require actual courage from them, they =
are to use a
| military term, AWOL.
| Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 AM
| =
http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=3DAnchor&CategoryID=3D1&BlogID=3D=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>YO!!! TOM!!! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just sent the "reply to all" that he =
did. Thought=20
they might want to know "the rest of the story" and all that... Is =
there a=20
problem with that???? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*as she frantically looks up the online =
address to=20
the National Enquirer*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now! I am REALLY off to plant those=20
seeds!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sleep well!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dthansen@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom =
Hansen</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> ; <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision=20
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 8:10 =
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Yo,=20
Janesta!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>It seems that=20
you CC'd this to every newspaper in the free world but the =
National=20
Enquirer. Don't you like them?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Enquiring minds=20
want to know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Take=20
care,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D405250803-04052004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Tom=20
Hansen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">vision2020-admin@moscow.com</=
A>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>JSullivan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 7:58 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Art=20
Deco aka W. Fox; Vision 2020<BR><B>Cc:</B> Nathan Alford Daily News; =
LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher; Sharon Kehoe; Vera White Daily News; Murf Raquet =
Daily=20
News; Ralph Nielsen<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational Story=20
of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra=20
Lund<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I feel in the political climate we =
are living=20
in these days, ALL ideas are important and have an impact on each =
and every=20
one of us. We need to stand up, and shout if need be, so that our =
voices are=20
heard above the din of King George's rhetoric. HOWEVER, that =
said,=20
when something is sent to another PRIVATELY, it should remain =
private,=20
unless the person receiving it gets permission to share it from the =
sender,=20
with the rest of the group. I belong to a paying chat site, if =
a=20
private message were shared, the person sharing it would be flamed =
but good!=20
Believe me, it is NOT a pretty sight!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, I did send the post below to =
the rest of=20
the vision2020 group, as I felt since my privacy was breeched, =
I wanted=20
people to know how I felt about it. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I graciously accept your apology. I =
understand=20
how things can get under the "heat of the moment". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let this be a lesson to us =
all, that in=20
the future, we take a deep breath, maybe six or ten deep breaths... =
read our=20
replies over... and over... and over... and only THEN, press the =
send=20
key.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>May you all enjoy this pleasant =
spring evening!=20
I am heading outside now to plant a few crawling, viney flowering =
seeds for=20
my fencelines. You know what "they" say... Good fences make good =
neighbors?=20
I thought I would make mine pretty. *soft laugh*</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Enjoy the week!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco aka W.=20
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision=20
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A =
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf=20
Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 =
7:25=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020]=20
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to =
Saundra=20
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I am sorry if I did not notice that your =
previous=20
message to me was not sent to all Vision 2020 =
readers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The [Vision 2020] heading was in the =
subject. Once=20
seeing that, I carelessly did not look at To: address. That =
was my=20
mistake. Had I noticed the differences in addresses, I would =
have=20
responded to you privately. I again apologize for not =
noticing the=20
solo addressee on your email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>In some cases private messages resulting from =
Vision=20
2020 posts have been posted to the entire forum for a variety of=20
reasons. Your post was one that had I been more careful, I =
would not=20
have forwarded. I notice, however, the post below was =
sent to=20
the entire forum.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>However, you did raise a legitimate =
issue: =20
What ideas are allowable and how are they to =
be allowed to=20
be expressed on Vision 2020? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Perhaps, there are as many different opinions =
on this=20
matter as there are Vision 2020 posters. We now have some =
idea of=20
what Don Coombs' opinion is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>From my previous answer you can tell that I =
was one of=20
those that saw more than prudishness when John Ashcroft covered =
the bare=20
breasts of Justice. His shrouding action was symbolic of his =
closed=20
approach to what should be public business and open to robust and =
varied=20
discussion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your open remarks; I sincerely =
hope that=20
you can forgive my egregious mistake in accidentally making a =
private=20
communication public.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV=
>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision=20
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; =
<A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf=20
Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, =
2004 6:13=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response =
to=20
Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it a normal practice to =
forward on=20
a private message from one party to the other, in this =
forum.....=20
to everyone? I am a very private person, and don't appreciate =
this one=20
iota. You can write whatever you want to, as can I. I just find =
the=20
breech of my private opinion to you, reenforces what I said to =
you,=20
albeit PRIVATELY, that you are a person lacking in manners AND =
class. Or=20
was it dignity and class? *nodding* I'll add manners to =
the list.=20
For someone so steadfast in lawyers doing the right thing in a =
court of=20
law, you might want to consider thinking about "doing the right =
thing"=20
yourself. Just because you CAN post my private message to you, =
in=20
public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you SHOULD. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a matter of fact, I DO use =
the delete=20
key on a regular basis. Less so these days, since the=20
religious haggling has died down somewhat. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good day, Mr. Fox.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco aka W.=20
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision=20
2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> =
; <A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera White=20
Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A =
title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu =
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph=20
Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, =
2004 9:11=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Vision2020]=20
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response =
to=20
Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta and those that share her point of =
view [all=20
or in part],</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your comments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>It would miraculous and surprising if =
everyone=20
one participating in an online or other forum agreed =
with or=20
was pleased by everything everyone else wrote.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If I have read the many thousands of =
Vision 2020=20
posts and responses correctly, many participants express a =
great=20
variety of responses to other postings: various nuances of =
agreement,=20
anger, disgust, helplessness, amusement, shock, befuddlement,=20
cluelessness, etc. are evident. This is to be =
expected in=20
an open, public forum in a community with a wide variety =
of=20
outlooks, manners of expression, talents, subjects of =
interest,=20
and gradients of education and knowledge. Also to =
be=20
considered: although many claim to, observations lead =
one to=20
believe that no one person or organization owns the truth -- =
the=20
universe is too complicated to be understood by a=20
single person or group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>While Dan Carscallen and I do not always =
agree, I=20
appreciate his terse humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, =
incisive, persistent commentary, and Saundra Lund's, Rose =
Huskey's,=20
and Joan Opyr's brisk, cutting irony, sarcasm, and willingness =
to=20
research facts. Although I seldom agreed with Dale =
Courtney, I=20
respected his willingness to present statistics and graphs to =
argue=20
his point of view. I appreciate Tom Hansen's sometimes =
emotional=20
postings and labor intensive, caring allied website. I =
don't=20
always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to see=20
exactly where he is coming from and learn from it. =
LuJane=20
and I have quite different worldviews. The list could go =
on and=20
on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each individual has their own point of =
view and=20
preferences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Similarly, when presenting a point of =
view, a writer=20
has his choice of many different literary devices. =
Depending on=20
the circumstances, subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer =
attempts to choose, perhaps in error, the most effective =
devices=20
to reach their goals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>You find the device I used in the post at =
issue to=20
be tasteless and objectionable. There is no doubt that=20
it is quite graphic parody -- a device sometimes =
used=20
by other Vision 2020 posters and surprise: millions =
of=20
other writers. Depending on their point of view and =
life's=20
experience, some readers might find such graphic parody =
extreme. =20
Those that participate in national on-line forums and/or=20
frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not find it=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I purposely changed the title of the =
thread at issue=20
so as to warn potential readers. When seeing the title=20
"Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles," the =
timid should=20
guess that the content would not be as tame or as =
civil as=20
would the content expected in a post entitled "High Tea at =
Good=20
Samaritan Village." Delete keys have their =
uses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I hope that most of us can agree that free =
expression of ideas and the way chosen to express=20
those ideas is one of the most important,=20
fundamental elements of an open, secular society. =
Just as=20
you are free to say what you wish and how to say it, others =
are=20
also. That is what makes us free.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each of us must choose which of our =
ever-evolving=20
opinions to express and how to express them to reach certain=20
goals. It would be an exercise in extreme egotism to =
think that=20
one's writings would have a desirable, persuasive, positive =
effect on=20
all members of the reading audience. I entertain no such =
hopes. In fact, I would be happy for a 5% positive =
response;=20
perhaps even that is too high.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you again for your feedback. =
Your (or=20
anyone else's) censorious use of the delete key for any of my =
future=20
posts would certainly be understandable and not at all=20
objectionable. However, please consider allowing each =
individual=20
the freedom to decide what to do with any particular posting =
-- each=20
can invoke their own censor without help from the rest of=20
us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, =
2004 8:30=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Vision2020]=20
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A =
Response to=20
Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While I find little=20
to concur with these days regarding Mr. =
Wilson, and=20
what he espouses, and I do consider myself =
"normal". I=20
find this exercise in writing to be in very poor taste for =
this=20
forum. It shows a real lack of dignity and class on your =
part, Mr.=20
Fox. I fail to see the humor in it. Am I alone in feeling =
this=20
way?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message =
----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; =
font-color: black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com =
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco=20
aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> ; <A =
title=3Dsslund@adelphia.net=20
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">Saundra Lund</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily =
News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com=20
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane Nisse =
Publisher</A> ;=20
<A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu =
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon=20
Kehoe</A> ; <A title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera White Daily =
News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dmurf@dnews.com href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf =
Raquet=20
Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May =
02, 2004=20
7:40 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> =
[Vision2020]=20
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A =
Response to=20
Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Saundra =
(and other=20
Normal Folks),</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thank =
you for your=20
Vision 2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, of some of =
Moscow,=20
Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s views =
on=20
women.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Wilson=92s deep,=20
gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing fear and =
massive=20
ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of =
castration=20
torturously screams out from his writings.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, it is =
too late=20
for him to worry about losing his balls.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fait =
Accompli.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Further, it is=20
<STRONG>particularly uncanny</STRONG> that you raised the =
issue of=20
the Cult Master=92s testicles at this particular time!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I=92ve =
just been=20
updated about their status by inside man Gray Greenphlegm=20
(Zoomie=92s Bakery, Booger=92s Coffee House, Greenphlegm =
Coffee, Balls=20
and Crotch Book Stall, etc.). <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The true story of =
the=20
misadventures of the Cult Master=92s balls is a marvelous, =
divinely=20
inspired, modern religious parable.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We last =
heard of=20
the Cult Master=92s balls when they were in the hands (no =
pun=20
intended) of Rose Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit =
of=20
pathetic Douglas Wilson=92s balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose =
was exhibiting=20
these singular objects around the Palouse not only because =
they=20
formerly belonged to the Cult Master, but because of their =
curious, unexpected properties.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First, coming =
from such a=20
large, obese man the testicles were tiny and =
underdeveloped.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Second, they =
were not=20
ovoid but round like those of a hyena.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Third, they were =
not flesh=20
colored but were an amazing bright scarlet.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>=93They look =
like rotten=20
miniature beets!=94 exclaimed both attorney Gregor =
Dickistoosmal and=20
Aaron Retch of the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose =
Huskey is a=20
practical woman.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>For=20
exhibition purposes, she was carrying the Cult Master=92s =
testicles=20
around in a zip-lock bag.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Unfortunately, she was almost run down in that =
dangerous=20
crosswalk by the Moscow Police Station.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During her =
scurry, she=20
accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson=92s balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Fortunately, they=20
were immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, famous, =
eccentric=20
Moscow sculptress and member of the Christ Church =
Cult.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is =
well known=20
that an insanely driving creative urge sometimes seizes =
and=20
possesses Ms. Wantout.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>This time the urge hit her when she was in a =
semi-comatose=20
state induced by listening to one of Douglas Wilson=92s =
taped=20
sermons.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In =
her=20
impaired state she mistook the Cult Master=92s balls for=20
play-dough.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>She then=20
tried to fashion them into shapes of small animals and =
religious=20
icons.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Unfortunately,=20
this did not work.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Giving =
her effort=20
up as a lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult Master=92s =
mangled=20
balls to their zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them in =
her=20
purse.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Like =
Thales of=20
yore, Eileen sometimes wanders about with her wits focused =
on=20
things other than where she is going or what she is =
doing.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Consequently, =
her purse=20
was snatched.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">When =
the snatcher=20
opened the purse to extract its treasures, the first thing =
he=20
discovered was the Cult Master=92s tiny, mangled =
balls.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This so =
thoroughly=20
discommoded the snatcher that he threw the zip-lock bag =
with the=20
tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into the first =
automobile=20
with an open window he found.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Miraculously, the=20
receiving vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, =
internationally=20
famous painter.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN>Stonewell had recently and graciously volunteered =
to do an=20
11 x 8 foot inspirational painting for the University of =
Idaho=92s=20
Women=92s Center.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>She=20
was artistically blocked, however, because she was unable =
to find=20
a pigment of just the right color for strategic parts of =
her=20
brilliant artistic conception.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talk =
about divine=20
serendipity! <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> </SPAN>The Cult=20
Master=92s balls were exactly the natural color Stonewell =
was=20
looking for!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The =
rest is=20
history.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Stonewell=20
immediately took the Cult Master=92s testicles to her =
studio. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Norma then =
crushed and=20
ground Douglas Wilson=92s balls with her massive mortar =
and pestle,=20
adding secret ingredients and thus making pigment from =
them.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She then painted =
feverishly for several weeks to produce her now famous =
masterpiece=20
of classical religious allegory.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As most =
of you know=20
the painting depicts a young woman standing triumphantly =
over the=20
body of a dead pastor who had just ordered her death by =
stoning in=20
a great, blithering rage. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The young woman =
had dared=20
to declare that women have the same rights as men!<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The pastor =
depicted in the=20
painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the =
gluttonous=20
Douglas Wilson.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Exhibiting a=20
brilliant stroke of divinely inspired, stunning symbolism =
and=20
subtext, the painting clearly shows that the pastor choked =
to=20
death after swallowing a gargantuan gob of eagle feces. =
<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no other =
reasonable interpretation than this massive, =
multi-colored,=20
amorphous mass fell from the sky just as the pastor was =
looking=20
upward exhorting God to visit holy, heinous, basaltic =
vengeance on=20
the young woman.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Stonewell=92s vivid,=20
meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still circling eagle =
and the=20
scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered flecks and =
jagged=20
clumps of eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth and =
beard of=20
the dead pastor (whose lips and interior mouth were =
colored in=20
part using the pigment described above) are considered to =
be the=20
finest examples of micro-detailing in the history of=20
painting.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>In fact, as=20
most know, Stonewell unanimously won the Nobel Prize for =
this=20
magnificent work of art as well as unanimously winning =
many other=20
prestigious awards.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Many claim that in voting for all these awards, the =
juries=20
were directly guided by the hand of God.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Norma =
Stonewell=92s=20
painting, entitled =93<B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal">God=20
Drops a Hint</B>=94, adorns a wall of the UI Women=92s =
Center.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Despite having =
lost his=20
balls, this exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson feel=20
especially warm and prickly all over:<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>His former =
testicles are=20
now helping to inspire women of all ages, races, and =
sexual=20
orientations toward achieving full equality and full=20
self-realization.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In a =
previous=20
posting the following was mentioned when Wilson=92s =
son-in-law, Ben=20
Merkle, also lost his balls also to Rose Huskey=92s =
castrating=20
wit.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Now, =
Ben=92s=20
balls are enshrined in the giant jar of pickled eggs at =
the Corner=20
Club.) <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> </SPAN>According to=20
the Know-Alls at <A =
href=3D"http://www.christkirk.com/">Christian=20
Bestiality</A>, testicles from an Athabaskan pygmy goat =
could=20
normally be transplanted onto the Cult Master.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This was =
diligently and=20
strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a=20
failure.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>The goat=20
testicles rejected the patient.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Sincerely,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> <BR>Wayne</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
size=3D5><FONT size=3D4><FONT size=3D3>Art Deco =
(Wayne=20
Fox)<BR></FONT><A href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
=
size=3D3>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A></FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
size=3D5><FONT =
size=3D4><BR> </P></FONT></FONT></o:p></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
size=3D4>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT=20
size=3D4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" =
<</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>>; =
"'Vision=20
2020'" <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
size=3D4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: =
Women=20
should not be able to choose to defend their=20
country</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>| Hi Mr. Fox,<BR>| <BR>| I'm not at =
all=20
surprised by Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog =
entry. =20
For<BR>| the benefit of new V2020 members and for those =
who may=20
have missed it the<BR>| first time around, I'm going to =
repost=20
part of my "Why Moscow?" post from a<BR>| couple of months =
ago.<BR>| <BR>| Wilson has written:<BR>| "If those who =
hate the=20
Word of God can succeed in getting Christians to be<BR>|=20
embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that =
portion=20
will<BR>| continually be employed as a battering ram =
against the=20
godly principles that<BR>| are currently under =
attack. In=20
our day, three of the principal issues are<BR>| abortion,=20
feminism, and sodomy."<BR>| </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm"><FONT=20
=
size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm</FONT></A><B=
R><FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and =
his=20
church's position on "abortion,<BR>| feminism, and =
sodomy." =20
<sigh><BR>| <BR>| However, how many of us knew that =
Wilson's=20
opposition to equal rights for<BR>| women is rabid enough =
that=20
should women be allowed in combat to defend our<BR>| =
country, he=20
would advocate the following?<BR>| <BR>| "The American =
military is=20
currently acting the part of a weak sister. The<BR>| =
pressure is on to bring women into combat roles. . . =
Indications=20
of our<BR>| cultural dissolution are legion these days, =
but this=20
one ranks in the top<BR>| five . . . A nation defended by =
her=20
women is a nation no longer worth<BR>| defending. =
When women=20
are placed in the front line of defense, every<BR>| =
Christian man=20
should walk away from the cause of that nation as =
being<BR>|=20
beneath contempt. Taking this a step further, a =
nation as=20
far gone as to<BR>| think that women in combat is a viable =
way to=20
go is a nation which is no<BR>| longer defensible in=20
principle-even if there remains a misguided desire to<BR>| =
defend=20
it. Men who understand their duties in this regard . =
. .=20
should<BR>| recognize that the result of all our =
evangelical=20
dithering about is that the<BR>| nation which we call the =
United=20
States has already been lost."<BR>| </FONT><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php"><FONT=20
=
size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php</FONT></A><BR><=
FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Wow!<BR>| <BR>| Since the US is already =
"lost,"=20
what, then, is a man to do? Well, never<BR>| fear =
because=20
Wilson has your answer, and it offers further insight into =
his<BR>| empire building here in Moscow:<BR>| <BR>| =
"Families=20
should begin congregating in communities where these =
duties=20
are<BR>| understood, and the men of those communities have =
every=20
intention of<BR>| fulfilling those duties. Christian =
men who=20
are in the military should get<BR>| out at the first =
lawful=20
opportunity and move to a community where they may<BR>| =
defend=20
their families instead of their current unwilling defense =
of=20
the<BR>| feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in =
Deuteronomy 22:5 is one<BR>| which blindsides us. We =
knew=20
abortion and homosexuality were abominations."<BR>| <BR>|=20
Double-wow!! So, is it Wilson's perception that =
*our* Moscow=20
community<BR>| *doesn't* support women's rights (among =
other=20
things)??? I guess he thinks<BR>| it doesn't really =
matter=20
what our community values since his empire is<BR>| =
recruiting=20
people to move to our community who share his desires for =
a<BR>|=20
theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that =
has to=20
start<BR>| someplace, so he's targeted our community as =
the first=20
step :-( That seems<BR>| clear to me in spite =
of=20
Wilson's public protestations otherwise.<BR>| <BR>| I hope =
and=20
pray this community will continue to wake up and smell=20
Wilson's<BR>| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's =
necessary to=20
speak out against such<BR>| wickedness. He has a =
very=20
clearly stated agenda that I believe is abhorrent<BR>| to =
our=20
community and flatly antithetical to what makes our =
community=20
Moscow.<BR>| <BR>| But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* =
take my=20
word for it! Go straight to the<BR>| horse's mouth =
and read=20
Wilson's own published words. Compare and =
contrast<BR>| what=20
he says when he's talking to others who share his beliefs =
with=20
what he<BR>| says when he's addressing those who don't =
share his=20
particular flavor of<BR>| Christianity. As a =
community, I=20
hope we will continue to use our collective<BR>| critical =
thinking=20
skills to keep the wool from being pulled over our =
eyes.<BR>|=20
<BR>| So, please remind me again: who is it that's =
supposed=20
to be intolerant???<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Saundra Lund<BR>| =
Proud=20
Intoleristas<BR>| Moscow, ID<BR>| <BR>| -----Original=20
Message-----<BR>| From: </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D4>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On<BR>| Behalf Of Art =
Deco=20
aka W. Fox<BR>| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM<BR>| =
To:=20
Vision 2020<BR>| Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women =
should=20
not be able to choose to<BR>| defend their country<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
<BR>| Normal Folks,<BR>| <BR>| The following is a dido =
(perhaps,=20
some might uncivilly say "dildo"[you can<BR>| infer his =
target])=20
from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's<BR>| =
self-sucking=20
weblog (webblot?) </FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.dougwils.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>www.dougwils.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>. <BR>| =
<BR>| Not=20
only should women be disallowed from being on the board of =
his=20
two-bit<BR>| cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact =
at the=20
time of his initial<BR>| suggestion, both the President =
and Prime=20
Minister of Finland were women),<BR>| but apparently women =
should=20
not be given the freedom to choose how they wish<BR>| to =
serve=20
their country!<BR>| <BR>| It also appears that it is more=20
important to the Cult Master that he win his<BR>| private=20
"cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for the =
U.S.=20
to<BR>| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory =
conclusion=20
(assuming one is<BR>| possible).<BR>| <BR>| Can you say=20
"pathological egomaniacal megalomania" or the less =
polite<BR>|=20
equivalent?<BR>| <BR>| Wayne<BR>| <BR>| Art Deco =
(Wayne=20
Fox)<BR>| </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=3D4>| =
<BR>|=20
__________________________________________________<BR>| =
<FONT=20
face=3DGaramond size=3D3>Absent Without Leave<BR>| Topic: =
Current=20
Events<BR>| <BR>| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple =
lessons=20
can be gleaned from it. And<BR>| not all the lessons have =
anything=20
to do with the tactical details of this<BR>| particular =
war.<BR>|=20
<BR>| One of the most strking things about this conflict =
is that=20
when I see<BR>| talking heads on the teevee talking about =
it,=20
whether they support or oppose<BR>| the war, whether they =
are=20
conservative or liberal, they always manage to get<BR>| in =
something about how they of course support "our brave men =
and=20
women" in<BR>| uniform. And there, with those two words -- =
"and=20
women" -- we have a<BR>| showcase example of how our =
domestic=20
kennel-fed conservative leaders do not<BR>| have any =
earthly idea=20
of what kind of cultural conflict we are in.<BR>| =
Apparently=20
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