[Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
JSullivan
jsullivan@moscow.com
Mon, 3 May 2004 18:13:03 -0700
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Is it a normal practice to forward on a private message from one party =
to the other, in this forum..... to everyone? I am a very private =
person, and don't appreciate this one iota. You can write whatever you =
want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my private opinion to you, =
reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that you are a person =
lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? *nodding* =
I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in lawyers doing =
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about "doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my =
private message to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you =
SHOULD.=20
As a matter of fact, I DO use the delete key on a regular basis. Less so =
these days, since the religious haggling has died down somewhat.=20
Good day, Mr. Fox.
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
To: Vision 2020=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon Kehoe ; =
Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Janesta and those that share her point of view [all or in part],
Thank you for your comments.
It would miraculous and surprising if everyone one participating in an =
online or other forum agreed with or was pleased by everything everyone =
else wrote.
If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 posts and responses =
correctly, many participants express a great variety of responses to =
other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust, =
helplessness, amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, etc. are =
evident. This is to be expected in an open, public forum in a community =
with a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression, talents, =
subjects of interest, and gradients of education and knowledge. Also to =
be considered: although many claim to, observations lead one to believe =
that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the universe is too =
complicated to be understood by a single person or group.
While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I appreciate his terse =
humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, persistent commentary, =
and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, cutting irony, =
sarcasm, and willingness to research facts. Although I seldom agreed =
with Dale Courtney, I respected his willingness to present statistics =
and graphs to argue his point of view. I appreciate Tom Hansen's =
sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, caring allied website. =
I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to see exactly where =
he is coming from and learn from it. LuJane and I have quite different =
worldviews. The list could go on and on.
Each individual has their own point of view and preferences.
Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a writer has his choice of =
many different literary devices. Depending on the circumstances, =
subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts to choose, perhaps =
in error, the most effective devices to reach their goals.
You find the device I used in the post at issue to be tasteless and =
objectionable. There is no doubt that it is quite graphic parody -- a =
device sometimes used by other Vision 2020 posters and surprise: =
millions of other writers. Depending on their point of view and life's =
experience, some readers might find such graphic parody extreme. Those =
that participate in national on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED =
pages probably would not find it so.
I purposely changed the title of the thread at issue so as to warn =
potential readers. When seeing the title "Inspirational Story of the =
Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the content would =
not be as tame or as civil as would the content expected in a post =
entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village." Delete keys have their =
uses.
I hope that most of us can agree that free expression of ideas and the =
way chosen to express those ideas is one of the most important, =
fundamental elements of an open, secular society. Just as you are free =
to say what you wish and how to say it, others are also. That is what =
makes us free.
Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving opinions to express =
and how to express them to reach certain goals. It would be an exercise =
in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would have a desirable, =
persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading audience. I =
entertain no such hopes. In fact, I would be happy for a 5% positive =
response; perhaps even that is too high.
Thank you again for your feedback. Your (or anyone else's) censorious =
use of the delete key for any of my future posts would certainly be =
understandable and not at all objectionable. However, please consider =
allowing each individual the freedom to decide what to do with any =
particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor without help from =
the rest of us.
Respectfully,
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JSullivan=20
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
While I find little to concur with these days regarding Mr. Wilson, =
and what he espouses, and I do consider myself "normal". I find this =
exercise in writing to be in very poor taste for this forum. It shows a =
real lack of dignity and class on your part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the =
humor in it. Am I alone in feeling this way?
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
To: Vision 2020 ; Saundra Lund=20
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon =
Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Saundra (and other Normal Folks),
=20
Thank you for your Vision 2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, =
of some of Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's =
views on women.
=20
Wilson's deep, gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing =
fear and massive ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of =
castration torturously screams out from his writings. However, it is =
too late for him to worry about losing his balls. Fait Accompli.
=20
Further, it is particularly uncanny that you raised the issue of =
the Cult Master's testicles at this particular time!
=20
I've just been updated about their status by inside man Gray =
Greenphlegm (Zoomie's Bakery, Booger's Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, =
Balls and Crotch Book Stall, etc.). The true story of the misadventures =
of the Cult Master's balls is a marvelous, divinely inspired, modern =
religious parable.
=20
We last heard of the Cult Master's balls when they were in the =
hands (no pun intended) of Rose Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit =
of pathetic Douglas Wilson's balls.
=20
Rose was exhibiting these singular objects around the Palouse not =
only because they formerly belonged to the Cult Master, but because of =
their curious, unexpected properties. First, coming from such a large, =
obese man the testicles were tiny and underdeveloped. Second, they were =
not ovoid but round like those of a hyena. Third, they were not flesh =
colored but were an amazing bright scarlet. "They look like rotten =
miniature beets!" exclaimed both attorney Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron =
Retch of the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.
=20
Rose Huskey is a practical woman. For exhibition purposes, she =
was carrying the Cult Master's testicles around in a zip-lock bag. =
Unfortunately, she was almost run down in that dangerous crosswalk by =
the Moscow Police Station. During her scurry, she accidentally dropped =
Douglas Wilson's balls.
=20
Fortunately, they were immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, =
famous, eccentric Moscow sculptress and member of the Christ Church =
Cult.
=20
It is well known that an insanely driving creative urge sometimes =
seizes and possesses Ms. Wantout. This time the urge hit her when she =
was in a semi-comatose state induced by listening to one of Douglas =
Wilson's taped sermons. In her impaired state she mistook the Cult =
Master's balls for play-dough. She then tried to fashion them into =
shapes of small animals and religious icons. Unfortunately, this did =
not work.
=20
Giving her effort up as a lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult =
Master's mangled balls to their zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them =
in her purse. Like Thales of yore, Eileen sometimes wanders about with =
her wits focused on things other than where she is going or what she is =
doing. Consequently, her purse was snatched.
=20
When the snatcher opened the purse to extract its treasures, the =
first thing he discovered was the Cult Master's tiny, mangled balls. =
This so thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he threw the zip-lock =
bag with the tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into the first =
automobile with an open window he found.
=20
Miraculously, the receiving vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, =
internationally famous painter. Stonewell had recently and graciously =
volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting for the =
University of Idaho's Women's Center. She was artistically blocked, =
however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the right =
color for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic conception.
=20
Talk about divine serendipity! The Cult Master's balls were =
exactly the natural color Stonewell was looking for!
=20
The rest is history. Stonewell immediately took the Cult Master's =
testicles to her studio. Norma then crushed and ground Douglas Wilson's =
balls with her massive mortar and pestle, adding secret ingredients and =
thus making pigment from them. She then painted feverishly for several =
weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of classical religious =
allegory.
=20
As most of you know the painting depicts a young woman standing =
triumphantly over the body of a dead pastor who had just ordered her =
death by stoning in a great, blithering rage. The young woman had dared =
to declare that women have the same rights as men! The pastor depicted =
in the painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous =
Douglas Wilson.
=20
Exhibiting a brilliant stroke of divinely inspired, stunning =
symbolism and subtext, the painting clearly shows that the pastor choked =
to death after swallowing a gargantuan gob of eagle feces. There is no =
other reasonable interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, =
amorphous mass fell from the sky just as the pastor was looking upward =
exhorting God to visit holy, heinous, basaltic vengeance on the young =
woman.
=20
Stonewell's vivid, meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still =
circling eagle and the scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered =
flecks and jagged clumps of eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth =
and beard of the dead pastor (whose lips and interior mouth were colored =
in part using the pigment described above) are considered to be the =
finest examples of micro-detailing in the history of painting. In fact, =
as most know, Stonewell unanimously won the Nobel Prize for this =
magnificent work of art as well as unanimously winning many other =
prestigious awards. Many claim that in voting for all these awards, the =
juries were directly guided by the hand of God.
=20
Norma Stonewell's painting, entitled "God Drops a Hint", adorns a =
wall of the UI Women's Center. Despite having lost his balls, this =
exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel especially warm and =
prickly all over: His former testicles are now helping to inspire women =
of all ages, races, and sexual orientations toward achieving full =
equality and full self-realization.
=20
In a previous posting the following was mentioned when Wilson's =
son-in-law, Ben Merkle, also lost his balls also to Rose Huskey's =
castrating wit. (Now, Ben's balls are enshrined in the giant jar of =
pickled eggs at the Corner Club.) According to the Know-Alls at =
Christian Bestiality, testicles from an Athabaskan pygmy goat could =
normally be transplanted onto the Cult Master. This was diligently and =
strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a failure. The =
goat testicles rejected the patient.
=20
Sincerely,
=20
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>; "'Vision 2020'" =
<vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose to defend their country
| Hi Mr. Fox,
|=20
| I'm not at all surprised by Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog =
entry. For
| the benefit of new V2020 members and for those who may have =
missed it the
| first time around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" =
post from a
| couple of months ago.
|=20
| Wilson has written:
| "If those who hate the Word of God can succeed in getting =
Christians to be
| embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that portion =
will
| continually be employed as a battering ram against the godly =
principles that
| are currently under attack. In our day, three of the principal =
issues are
| abortion, feminism, and sodomy."
| http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm
|=20
| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his church's position on =
"abortion,
| feminism, and sodomy." <sigh>
|=20
| However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to equal =
rights for
| women is rabid enough that should women be allowed in combat to =
defend our
| country, he would advocate the following?
|=20
| "The American military is currently acting the part of a weak =
sister. The
| pressure is on to bring women into combat roles. . . Indications =
of our
| cultural dissolution are legion these days, but this one ranks =
in the top
| five . . . A nation defended by her women is a nation no longer =
worth
| defending. When women are placed in the front line of defense, =
every
| Christian man should walk away from the cause of that nation as =
being
| beneath contempt. Taking this a step further, a nation as far =
gone as to
| think that women in combat is a viable way to go is a nation =
which is no
| longer defensible in principle-even if there remains a misguided =
desire to
| defend it. Men who understand their duties in this regard . . . =
should
| recognize that the result of all our evangelical dithering about =
is that the
| nation which we call the United States has already been lost."
| http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php
|=20
| Wow!
|=20
| Since the US is already "lost," what, then, is a man to do? =
Well, never
| fear because Wilson has your answer, and it offers further =
insight into his
| empire building here in Moscow:
|=20
| "Families should begin congregating in communities where these =
duties are
| understood, and the men of those communities have every =
intention of
| fulfilling those duties. Christian men who are in the military =
should get
| out at the first lawful opportunity and move to a community =
where they may
| defend their families instead of their current unwilling defense =
of the
| feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy =
22:5 is one
| which blindsides us. We knew abortion and homosexuality were =
abominations."
|=20
| Double-wow!! So, is it Wilson's perception that *our* Moscow =
community
| *doesn't* support women's rights (among other things)??? I =
guess he thinks
| it doesn't really matter what our community values since his =
empire is
| recruiting people to move to our community who share his desires =
for a
| theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that has =
to start
| someplace, so he's targeted our community as the first step :-( =
That seems
| clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations otherwise.
|=20
| I hope and pray this community will continue to wake up and =
smell Wilson's
| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's necessary to speak out =
against such
| wickedness. He has a very clearly stated agenda that I believe =
is abhorrent
| to our community and flatly antithetical to what makes our =
community Moscow.
|=20
| But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it! Go =
straight to the
| horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published words. Compare =
and contrast
| what he says when he's talking to others who share his beliefs =
with what he
| says when he's addressing those who don't share his particular =
flavor of
| Christianity. As a community, I hope we will continue to use =
our collective
| critical thinking skills to keep the wool from being pulled over =
our eyes.
|=20
| So, please remind me again: who is it that's supposed to be =
intolerant???
|=20
|=20
| Saundra Lund
| Proud Intoleristas
| Moscow, ID
|=20
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
| Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM
| To: Vision 2020
| Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose to
| defend their country
|=20
|=20
| Normal Folks,
|=20
| The following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say =
"dildo"[you can
| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson's
| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) www.dougwils.com.=20
|=20
| Not only should women be disallowed from being on the board of =
his two-bit
| cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his =
initial
| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of Finland =
were women),
| but apparently women should not be given the freedom to choose =
how they wish
| to serve their country!
|=20
| It also appears that it is more important to the Cult Master =
that he win his
| private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for =
the U.S. to
| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion =
(assuming one is
| possible).
|=20
| Can you say "pathological egomaniacal megalomania" or the less =
polite
| equivalent?
|=20
| Wayne
|=20
| Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
| deco@moscow.com
|=20
| __________________________________________________
| Absent Without Leave
| Topic: Current Events
|=20
| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be gleaned =
from it. And
| not all the lessons have anything to do with the tactical =
details of this
| particular war.
|=20
| One of the most strking things about this conflict is that when =
I see
| talking heads on the teevee talking about it, whether they =
support or oppose
| the war, whether they are conservative or liberal, they always =
manage to get
| in something about how they of course support "our brave men and =
women" in
| uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" -- we =
have a
| showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed conservative =
leaders do not
| have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural conflict we are =
in.
| Apparently victory in Iraq is important enough that we should =
purchase it
| through fundamental defeats here at home.
|=20
| When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, where are the =
leading
| conservative spokesmen who take the opportunity to raise the =
point and press
| it? Why does no one point out that the abomination is, you know, =
abominable?
| Of course, they don't do it then out of consideration for the =
grieving
| families. And they don't do it later because there is no reason =
to when the
| heat is off. For all the saber-rattling conservatives can do =
when it comes
| to fighting backward nations with high-tech weaponry, when it =
comes to an
| issue that might require actual courage from them, they are to =
use a
| military term, AWOL.
| Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 AM
| =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it a normal practice to forward =
on a=20
private message from one party to the other, in this forum..... to=20
everyone? I am a very private person, and don't appreciate this one =
iota. You=20
can write whatever you want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my =
private=20
opinion to you, reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that =
you are a=20
person lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? =
*nodding*=20
I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in lawyers =
doing=20
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about=20
"doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my private =
message=20
to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you SHOULD. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a matter of fact, I DO use the =
delete key on a=20
regular basis. Less so these days, since the religious haggling has =
died=20
down somewhat. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good day, Mr. Fox.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco =
aka W. Fox</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dalford@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane Nisse=20
Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A =
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera White Daily News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dmurf@dnews.com href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf Raquet =
Daily News</A> ;=20
<A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph =
Nielsen</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 =
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta and those that share her point of view =
[all or in=20
part],</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your comments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>It would miraculous and surprising if everyone=20
one participating in an online or other forum agreed with or =
was=20
pleased by everything everyone else wrote.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 =
posts and=20
responses correctly, many participants express a great variety of =
responses to=20
other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust, =
helplessness,=20
amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, etc. are evident.=20
This is to be expected in an open, public forum in a =
community with=20
a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression, =
talents, subjects of=20
interest, and gradients of education and knowledge. Also to =
be=20
considered: although many claim to, observations lead one to =
believe=20
that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the universe is =
too=20
complicated to be understood by a single person or=20
group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I =
appreciate=20
his terse humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, =
persistent=20
commentary, and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, =
cutting=20
irony, sarcasm, and willingness to research facts. Although I =
seldom=20
agreed with Dale Courtney, I respected his willingness to present =
statistics=20
and graphs to argue his point of view. I appreciate Tom Hansen's =
sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, caring allied =
website. =20
I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to see=20
exactly where he is coming from and learn from it. LuJane =
and I=20
have quite different worldviews. The list could go on and=20
on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each individual has their own point of view and=20
preferences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a =
writer has his=20
choice of many different literary devices. Depending on the=20
circumstances, subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts to =
choose,=20
perhaps in error, the most effective devices to reach their=20
goals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>You find the device I used in the post at issue to =
be=20
tasteless and objectionable. There is no doubt that it is =
quite=20
graphic parody -- a device sometimes used by other Vision =
2020=20
posters and surprise: millions of other writers. Depending =
on their point of view and life's experience, some readers might =
find=20
such graphic parody extreme. Those that participate =
in national=20
on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not =
find it=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I purposely changed the title of the thread at =
issue so as=20
to warn potential readers. When seeing the title "Inspirational =
Story of=20
the Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the content =
would=20
not be as tame or as civil as would the content expected in =
a post=20
entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village." Delete keys have =
their=20
uses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I hope that most of us can agree that free =
expression of=20
ideas and the way chosen to express those ideas is one of =
the most=20
important, fundamental elements of an open, secular =
society. Just=20
as you are free to say what you wish and how to say it, others are =
also. =20
That is what makes us free.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving =
opinions=20
to express and how to express them to reach certain goals. It =
would be=20
an exercise in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would have =
a=20
desirable, persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading=20
audience. I entertain no such hopes. In fact, I would be =
happy for=20
a 5% positive response; perhaps even that is too high.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you again for your feedback. Your (or =
anyone=20
else's) censorious use of the delete key for any of my future posts =
would=20
certainly be understandable and not at all objectionable. =
However,=20
please consider allowing each individual the freedom to decide what to =
do with=20
any particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor without =
help from=20
the rest of us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 =
8:30=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While I find little =
to concur with=20
these days regarding Mr. Wilson, and what he espouses, and =
I do=20
consider myself "normal". I find this exercise in writing to be =
in very=20
poor taste for this forum. It shows a real lack of dignity and class =
on your=20
part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the humor in it. Am I alone in feeling =
this=20
way?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco aka W.=20
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dsslund@adelphia.net =
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">Saundra=20
Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A =
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf=20
Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 =
7:40=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Saundra (and =
other Normal=20
Folks),</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thank you for =
your Vision=20
2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, of some of Moscow, Idaho =
Christ=20
Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s views on women.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Wilson=92s =
deep,=20
gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing fear and massive=20
ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of castration=20
torturously screams out from his writings.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, it is too late =
for him to=20
worry about losing his balls.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Fait Accompli.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Further, it is=20
<STRONG>particularly uncanny</STRONG> that you raised the issue of =
the=20
Cult Master=92s testicles at this particular time!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I=92ve just =
been updated=20
about their status by inside man Gray Greenphlegm (Zoomie=92s =
Bakery,=20
Booger=92s Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, Balls and Crotch Book =
Stall,=20
etc.). <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The true =
story of the=20
misadventures of the Cult Master=92s balls is a marvelous, =
divinely=20
inspired, modern religious parable.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We last heard =
of the Cult=20
Master=92s balls when they were in the hands (no pun intended) of =
Rose=20
Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit of pathetic Douglas =
Wilson=92s=20
balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose was =
exhibiting these=20
singular objects around the Palouse not only because they formerly =
belonged to the Cult Master, but because of their curious, =
unexpected=20
properties.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>First, =
coming=20
from such a large, obese man the testicles were tiny and=20
underdeveloped.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Second, they=20
were not ovoid but round like those of a hyena.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Third, they were not =
flesh colored=20
but were an amazing bright scarlet.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>=93They look like rotten miniature beets!=94 exclaimed both =
attorney=20
Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron Retch of the Collegiate Deformed=20
Fellowship.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose Huskey is =
a practical=20
woman.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For =
exhibition=20
purposes, she was carrying the Cult Master=92s testicles around in =
a=20
zip-lock bag.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Unfortunately,=20
she was almost run down in that dangerous crosswalk by the Moscow =
Police=20
Station.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During her =
scurry,=20
she accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson=92s balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Fortunately, =
they were=20
immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, famous, eccentric Moscow=20
sculptress and member of the Christ Church Cult.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is well =
known that an=20
insanely driving creative urge sometimes seizes and possesses Ms.=20
Wantout.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This time =
the urge=20
hit her when she was in a semi-comatose state induced by listening =
to one=20
of Douglas Wilson=92s taped sermons.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>In her impaired state she mistook the Cult Master=92s balls =
for=20
play-dough.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She =
then tried to=20
fashion them into shapes of small animals and religious =
icons.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Unfortunately, this did =
not=20
work.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Giving her =
effort up as a=20
lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult Master=92s mangled balls to =
their=20
zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them in her purse.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Like Thales of yore, =
Eileen=20
sometimes wanders about with her wits focused on things other than =
where=20
she is going or what she is doing.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Consequently, her purse was snatched.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">When the =
snatcher opened=20
the purse to extract its treasures, the first thing he discovered =
was the=20
Cult Master=92s tiny, mangled balls.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>This so thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he threw =
the=20
zip-lock bag with the tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into =
the first=20
automobile with an open window he found.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Miraculously, =
the receiving=20
vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, internationally famous =
painter.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Stonewell had recently =
and=20
graciously volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting =
for the=20
University of Idaho=92s Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She was artistically =
blocked,=20
however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the =
right color=20
for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic conception.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talk about =
divine=20
serendipity! <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
Cult=20
Master=92s balls were exactly the natural color Stonewell was =
looking=20
for!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The rest is =
history.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Stonewell immediately =
took the=20
Cult Master=92s testicles to her studio. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Norma then crushed and =
ground=20
Douglas Wilson=92s balls with her massive mortar and pestle, =
adding secret=20
ingredients and thus making pigment from them.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She then painted =
feverishly for=20
several weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of classical =
religious=20
allegory.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As most of you =
know the=20
painting depicts a young woman standing triumphantly over the body =
of a=20
dead pastor who had just ordered her death by stoning in a great,=20
blithering rage. <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> </SPAN>The young=20
woman had dared to declare that women have the same rights as =
men!<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The pastor depicted in =
the=20
painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous =
Douglas=20
Wilson.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Exhibiting a =
brilliant=20
stroke of divinely inspired, stunning symbolism and subtext, the =
painting=20
clearly shows that the pastor choked to death after swallowing a=20
gargantuan gob of eagle feces. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no other =
reasonable=20
interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, amorphous mass =
fell from=20
the sky just as the pastor was looking upward exhorting God to =
visit holy,=20
heinous, basaltic vengeance on the young woman.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Stonewell=92s =
vivid,=20
meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still circling eagle and the =
scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered flecks and jagged =
clumps of=20
eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth and beard of the dead =
pastor=20
(whose lips and interior mouth were colored in part using the =
pigment=20
described above) are considered to be the finest examples of=20
micro-detailing in the history of painting.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In fact, as most know, =
Stonewell=20
unanimously won the Nobel Prize for this magnificent work of art =
as well=20
as unanimously winning many other prestigious awards.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many claim that in =
voting for all=20
these awards, the juries were directly guided by the hand of =
God.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Norma =
Stonewell=92s painting,=20
entitled =93<B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">God Drops a =
Hint</B>=94,=20
adorns a wall of the UI Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Despite having lost his =
balls,=20
this exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel =
especially warm=20
and prickly all over:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>His=20
former testicles are now helping to inspire women of all ages, =
races, and=20
sexual orientations toward achieving full equality and full=20
self-realization.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In a previous =
posting the=20
following was mentioned when Wilson=92s son-in-law, Ben Merkle, =
also lost=20
his balls also to Rose Huskey=92s castrating wit.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Now, Ben=92s balls are =
enshrined in=20
the giant jar of pickled eggs at the Corner Club.) <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>According to the =
Know-Alls at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.christkirk.com/">Christian Bestiality</A>, =
testicles from=20
an Athabaskan pygmy goat could normally be transplanted onto the =
Cult=20
Master.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This was =
diligently=20
and strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a=20
failure.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The goat =
testicles=20
rejected the patient.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Sincerely,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> <BR>Wayne</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
size=3D5><FONT=20
size=3D4><FONT size=3D3>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR></FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D3>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A></FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
size=3D5><FONT=20
size=3D4><BR> </P></FONT></FONT></o:p></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
size=3D4>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT =
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
size=3D4>>; "'Vision 2020'" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D4>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women =
should not=20
be able to choose to defend their country</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>| Hi Mr. Fox,<BR>| <BR>| I'm not at all =
surprised by=20
Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog entry. For<BR>| the =
benefit of=20
new V2020 members and for those who may have missed it the<BR>| =
first time=20
around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" post from =
a<BR>|=20
couple of months ago.<BR>| <BR>| Wilson has written:<BR>| "If =
those who=20
hate the Word of God can succeed in getting Christians to be<BR>|=20
embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that portion =
will<BR>|=20
continually be employed as a battering ram against the godly =
principles=20
that<BR>| are currently under attack. In our day, three of =
the=20
principal issues are<BR>| abortion, feminism, and sodomy."<BR>| =
</FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm"><FONT =
=
size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm</FONT></A><B=
R><FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his =
church's=20
position on "abortion,<BR>| feminism, and sodomy." =
<sigh><BR>|=20
<BR>| However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to =
equal=20
rights for<BR>| women is rabid enough that should women be allowed =
in=20
combat to defend our<BR>| country, he would advocate the =
following?<BR>|=20
<BR>| "The American military is currently acting the part of a =
weak=20
sister. The<BR>| pressure is on to bring women into combat =
roles. .=20
. Indications of our<BR>| cultural dissolution are legion these =
days, but=20
this one ranks in the top<BR>| five . . . A nation defended by her =
women=20
is a nation no longer worth<BR>| defending. When women are =
placed in=20
the front line of defense, every<BR>| Christian man should walk =
away from=20
the cause of that nation as being<BR>| beneath contempt. =
Taking this=20
a step further, a nation as far gone as to<BR>| think that women =
in combat=20
is a viable way to go is a nation which is no<BR>| longer =
defensible in=20
principle-even if there remains a misguided desire to<BR>| defend=20
it. Men who understand their duties in this regard . . . =
should<BR>|=20
recognize that the result of all our evangelical dithering about =
is that=20
the<BR>| nation which we call the United States has already been=20
lost."<BR>| </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php"><FONT=20
=
size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php</FONT></A><BR><=
FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Wow!<BR>| <BR>| Since the US is already "lost," =
what, then,=20
is a man to do? Well, never<BR>| fear because Wilson has =
your=20
answer, and it offers further insight into his<BR>| empire =
building here=20
in Moscow:<BR>| <BR>| "Families should begin congregating in =
communities=20
where these duties are<BR>| understood, and the men of those =
communities=20
have every intention of<BR>| fulfilling those duties. =
Christian men=20
who are in the military should get<BR>| out at the first lawful=20
opportunity and move to a community where they may<BR>| defend =
their=20
families instead of their current unwilling defense of the<BR>| =
feminist=20
agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy 22:5 is =
one<BR>|=20
which blindsides us. We knew abortion and homosexuality were =
abominations."<BR>| <BR>| Double-wow!! So, is it Wilson's =
perception=20
that *our* Moscow community<BR>| *doesn't* support women's rights =
(among=20
other things)??? I guess he thinks<BR>| it doesn't really =
matter=20
what our community values since his empire is<BR>| recruiting =
people to=20
move to our community who share his desires for a<BR>| theocracy =
-- I=20
guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that has to start<BR>| =
someplace,=20
so he's targeted our community as the first step :-( =
That=20
seems<BR>| clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations=20
otherwise.<BR>| <BR>| I hope and pray this community will continue =
to wake=20
up and smell Wilson's<BR>| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's=20
necessary to speak out against such<BR>| wickedness. He has =
a very=20
clearly stated agenda that I believe is abhorrent<BR>| to our =
community=20
and flatly antithetical to what makes our community Moscow.<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it! Go =
straight=20
to the<BR>| horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published =
words. =20
Compare and contrast<BR>| what he says when he's talking to others =
who=20
share his beliefs with what he<BR>| says when he's addressing =
those who=20
don't share his particular flavor of<BR>| Christianity. As a =
community, I hope we will continue to use our collective<BR>| =
critical=20
thinking skills to keep the wool from being pulled over our =
eyes.<BR>|=20
<BR>| So, please remind me again: who is it that's supposed =
to be=20
intolerant???<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Saundra Lund<BR>| Proud =
Intoleristas<BR>|=20
Moscow, ID<BR>| <BR>| -----Original Message-----<BR>| From: =
</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On<BR>| Behalf Of Art Deco =
aka W.=20
Fox<BR>| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM<BR>| To: Vision =
2020<BR>|=20
Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose=20
to<BR>| defend their country<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Normal Folks,<BR>| =
<BR>| The=20
following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say "dildo"[you =
can<BR>| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson's<BR>| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dougwils.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>www.dougwils.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>. <BR>| <BR>| =
Not only=20
should women be disallowed from being on the board of his =
two-bit<BR>|=20
cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his=20
initial<BR>| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of =
Finland=20
were women),<BR>| but apparently women should not be given the =
freedom to=20
choose how they wish<BR>| to serve their country!<BR>| <BR>| It =
also=20
appears that it is more important to the Cult Master that he win =
his<BR>|=20
private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for the =
U.S.=20
to<BR>| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion =
(assuming=20
one is<BR>| possible).<BR>| <BR>| Can you say "pathological =
egomaniacal=20
megalomania" or the less polite<BR>| equivalent?<BR>| <BR>| =
Wayne<BR>|=20
<BR>| Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR>| </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=3D4>| <BR>|=20
__________________________________________________<BR>| <FONT=20
face=3DGaramond size=3D3>Absent Without Leave<BR>| Topic: Current =
Events<BR>|=20
<BR>| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be =
gleaned from=20
it. And<BR>| not all the lessons have anything to do with the =
tactical=20
details of this<BR>| particular war.<BR>| <BR>| One of the most =
strking=20
things about this conflict is that when I see<BR>| talking heads =
on the=20
teevee talking about it, whether they support or oppose<BR>| the =
war,=20
whether they are conservative or liberal, they always manage to =
get<BR>|=20
in something about how they of course support "our brave men and =
women"=20
in<BR>| uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" -- =
we have=20
a<BR>| showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed =
conservative=20
leaders do not<BR>| have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural =
conflict we are in.<BR>| Apparently victory in Iraq is important =
enough=20
that we should purchase it<BR>| through fundamental defeats here =
at=20
home.<BR>| <BR>| When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, =
where=20
are the leading<BR>| conservative spokesmen who take the =
opportunity to=20
raise the point and press<BR>| it? Why does no one point out that =
the=20
abomination is, you know, abominable?<BR>| Of course, they don't =
do it=20
then out of consideration for the grieving<BR>| families. And they =
don't=20
do it later because there is no reason to when the<BR>| heat is =
off. For=20
all the saber-rattling conservatives can do when it comes<BR>| to =
fighting=20
backward nations with high-tech weaponry, when it comes to an<BR>| =
issue=20
that might require actual courage from them, they are to use =
a<BR>|=20
military term, AWOL.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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size=3D1>Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 =
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