[Spam] [Vision2020] Breaking News: Bush sending us to war (again) in Haiti

[matt@moscowland.com]

now ther yuo goe agane putin wordses in mi moufh. I nevr sade Sodom had WDM in them boots. Only thet I seed 'em. 

Just so you know, The U.N. works that way, when we say it works that way. And yes Carter had that power. As do all who hold the office of President.
I am glad you look to the future, we need people who do. But let us not forget the past, lest we repeat it.  As for peace keepers/peacekeepers, I am surprised you forgot to mention the missle. 

As for individual choice, yes of course we all, you, me, my son are all free to make that choice and by indicating that I would send him, I am expressing my conviction not to prevent him from serving his country. Not to live in the past or anything, but remeber that Rome fell when Romans no longer populated the Officer corp or the ranks. 

You say that you can not possibly know what is goining on inside the Presidents. I thank you for your honesty. You proved my point well. Based on your admission you should not call him a lier. 

By your kind I mean so very much. I think I could sum it up by saying so very little. 
I would expect you to attempt to legislate morality, dictate the thoughts of others, surrender your will to those who say what you want to hear, only express the popular view(even when its out of style) and to above all, not learn from the past.

Actually I must admit that I very much enjoyed your response. I have not been this excited since Bush invaded Hati, oh wait that was really just a humanitarian mission to help the innocents, or havent you seen the pics from the island. Would you have complained if we had done nothing?

I have said and will say again I respect your right to be wrong. I need to say something seriously though.

You indicated that all who die in wars die for nothing. This truely offends me. Maybe you should ask the families of the men who died on Normandy, Gaudel canal, Bastone, manchuria, The Phillipines, North Africa, Inchone, Iwo Jima, Bunker Hill, Gettiesburg, Kuwaite, Boonesboro, Midway, The Magino line, Waitsburg, Pearl Harbor, The Alamo and all the other countless battles where men gave their lives for the good of other men. Instead of asking thier families, maybe you should ask the families of those they saved, the MILLIONS that live under thier own will because of the sacrifces of those brave men.

I am sure you have seen the bumper sticker "If you can read this thank a teacher." its missing the second part.
"If you can read this in english, thank a Vet."

I agree that an avoidable war is an atrocity, but please do not dishoner the memories of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice and won and preserved YOUR freedom. 

> In a message dated 2/29/2004 8:20:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> matt@moscowland.com writes:
> Thanks for replying line by line. It allows for a quicker discourse.
> The loan on my son will be due when all nations are of free men. 
> Lets play a game. I quote and you identify.
> 
> "No man is truely free until he fights for the freedom of another man."
> 
> Humm, well, I am familiar with The Greek dramatist Euripides who coined the 
> phrase "No man is truly free." in a play he wrote in the 5th Century BC. Others 
> have added onto it since that time, John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Fredrick 
> Douglas, Abraham Lincoln, and many others: 
> 
> "No Man is truly free who is in financial bondage."
> "No man was free, but he who exercised himself in the meditation of the law."
>  "No man is truly free whose thoughts, feelings and actions are dependent 
> upon another man's thoughts, feelings and actions. ... "
> 
> 
> "As much as we disagree we do have one thing in common. The right to. And I 
> promise that I would fight to preserve your right to be wrong, and if nessasary 
> send my son to do the same. 
> I would not be supprised if you didnt receive amnisty from President Carter."
> I would be surprised if he pardoned. Carter doesn't have that authority. You 
> are still living in the past. I go to bed and dream of a better day in the 
> morning. You wake up and hope it was yesterday.
> I would fight for the Freedom of all Men. But fighting doesn't make it a war 
> about freedom. Nor does the President saying it is about freedom make it about 
> freedom. Most people that die in war, die for absolutely no reason other than 
> people in power getting more land or money. In terms of sending a relative in 
> my care to war, I would let them make that choice. 
> 
> 
> Republicans have always been willing to attach our troops to UN operations, 
> as long as we are in charge of them. 
> That is not the way the UN works.
> 
> 
> You claim without hesitation that the President has lied. I challenge you to 
> prove beyond reasonable doubt, one single lie that the President has told. 
> Please understand that in order to be a lie, the person telling it must know its 
> a lie when they say it. Those are the rules. Ready GO!
> I am supposed to prove to you what is going on in the head of President? Gee, 
> what realistic terms. Now how do you suppose I prove what is going on in the 
> head of the President? I cannot. I can easily prove that what the President 
> said and fact are not consistent on many occasions. Watch the 2003 State of the 
> Union Address. 
> 
> 
> "( and you can't use the one about Saddam's ships off the coast of America 
> cause I saw them)"
> 
> WOO HO HO! You saw the Iraqi Navy carrying WMDs off the coast the United 
> States and didn't say anything to the US Navy? Man, you should call up Bush now 
> and let him know. He has been in some hot water lately for not being able to 
> find them WMDs. And here you are, all knowing, having seen them all the way out 
> there, from Idaho too. What powerful binoculars you got handy. 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes I do have the word Peace in my vocabulary dork. I was using "piece 
> keeping" as a pun (thats a play on words) (please refer to the quotations) the 
> Balkans and Somalia were and still are today "splintered factions", give it some 
> time, you'll get it........probebly.
> Oh, sorry, I thought you just misspelled it, kind of like you did at first 
> with Balkans, you spelled "Balkins", and "Probebly", is spelled "Probably", and 
> Truly you spelled "Truely", and "realitivly" is wrong, oh yeah and "ment" is 
> spelled meant. So I just though maybe you didn't know how to use the English 
> language. Lord knows I cannot spell. But I do use the spell checker and 
> proofread at least once.
> Now did you mean "Peace Keepers" or "peacekeepers"? They are two different 
> things. One is the use of soldiers that fight, and one is the use of 
> administrators that perform preventive war administrative functions. I hope you weren't 
> making a pun at the fun of our soldiers.
> 
> 
> You are right, .... sorry I ment not completly wrong, I can not defend the 
> President by sighting previous Presidents short comings. I did not mean to imply 
> that you defended President Clinton, just that I am realitivly sure you sat 
> back and said nothing.
> Nope, I said many things. I said things like, "Why are spending millions on 
> investigating the sex life of the President?"
> 
> 
> I am sure that what ever medals President Bush was awarded during his service 
> he has kept. I am unaware of any decorations he recieved. Most "men" would 
> not feel a need to list them. As for the flight suit. I am sure he got a new 
> one. After all he is the President now.
> I don't see why be needed a new one, his first one never even got dirty. Or 
> maybe it did get a keg or two spilled on it. 
> 
> 
> P.S. I really don't know when or even if you ever cryed wolf. I just ment 
> "your kind".
> 
> What precisely is my "kind"? Do you mean educated, white, Christian, 
> thinking, males, that care about their country and fellow humans? I understood that to 
> be my kind. But maybe you can clarify.
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Donovan J Arnold
> 
> PS Cried is spelled "cried", not "cryed". Please use your Spell Check option. 
>