[Vision2020] Evidence of Bush Family Values

[Tbertruss at aol.com]

LuJane et. al.

I am not trying to judge Bush or Clinton personally regarding their children's behavior.  It is true that Chelsea might be a great person despite Clinton, and Bush's daughters might be hell raisers despite Bush's best attempts at being a good father.

To be brief, I think it obvious that if Chelsea had been a law breaker like the Bush daughters, Clinton would have been blamed in the media by numerous sources for being a failure as a father, for Chelsea reflecting his moral failures.  Why does Bush get a pass over his daughter's bad conduct, when he has made family values and Christian moral values such a centerpiece of his image?

Ted Moffett


In a message dated 7/24/2004 5:28:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane at lataheagle.com> writes:

>nothing is absolute. Of course children from a loving, honest home have a
>better chance of growing up loving and honest but it isn't absolutely and to
>point at a child and say "he/she acts this way because he/she must have
>good/bad parents," is not an accurate statement in my opinion. As I would
>not judge parenting ability by the way a child acts, I would not judge a
>child to be bad if his parents are "bad."
>You can get into a huge, long debate on these things, but in this situation
>(bush/clinton)... my statement was meant to say, "do not judge the parent by
>the child."
>(actually we shouldn't judge at all.)
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Tbertruss at aol.com [mailto:Tbertruss at aol.com]
>  Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:10 PM
>  To: lujane at lataheagle.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Evidence of Bush Family Values
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>  Lujane:
>
>  Do you mean to suggest that parents should in no way be considered
>reflected in their children?  Do you really think that kids just make up
>their own minds and grow up however they are going to, and the good or bad
>example or influence parents might have on their children should not be
>considered when children exhibit problems?
>
>  This appears to be your position, an attitude I doubt most people or most
>social scientists or psychologists would find very tenable.
>
>  So the abuse of a child raised in a home with hatred really is not a
>factor if the child exhibits problems?  The parents are off the hook?  And
>W. Bush also?
>
>  Wow, this is great, parents everywhere can heave a sigh of relief!  Their
>behavior has nothing to do with how their children turn out.  Kids just make
>up their own minds about how they are going to live.  And it's just an
>amazing coincidence that 90%+ children in the USA decide to become
>Christians, and 90%+ in Iran decide to become Muslims, given that they are
>free willed beings who are not controlled by their families.
>
>  Right!
>
>  Ted Moffett
>