[Vision2020] V2020 Problems

[Bill London]

Have you ever noticed that everyone whines and complains about their Internet provider, no matter what company they choose?  Too slow, too many ads, not enough space, etc etc
And while I don't want to inhibit anyone's heartfelt complaints, I would like to remind everyone that without FSR there is no Vision2020.
Simple equation... No FSR equals No V2020.
FSR donates the service and maintenance that keeps V2020 a free, unmoderated list.  FSR deserves our gratitude.
I use FSR.  I am happy with their service.  I assume others are not.  But it is the height of irony to use V2020 to attack FSR.
BL
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Art Deco aka W. Fox 
  To: Vision 2020 
  Cc: First Step Internet 
  Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] V2020 Problems 


  Ted, et al,

  I may be wrong, but below is a possible explanation of the FSR email, V 2020 problems.

  First, it is not just V 2020 but emails from various sources and geographical locations that are sometimes delayed up to six days.  Some emails have been forever lost.

  The servers at FSR have a maximum capacity to handle email.  When that capacity is exceeded, the emails are cached somewhere else and retrieved, if possible, when the system has enough unused capacity to handle them.  Sometimes it is not possible to retrieve the cached emails on a timely basis or to retrieve them at all.

  Another problem concerns the allegations that certain users emails are being read by certain FSR staff.

  When I first signed up with FSR, the technical support was very good and one seldom had to wait.  Now, it is hard to get connected on call to them; leaving a message sometimes leads to a long (more than a day) wait.  The last experience I had was with someone who could not find the problem of why I could not connect to the mail server and seemed to have no idea of how to investigate the problem.  (I always do the obvious before calling, including a cold boot just in case of an OS foul-up).  He then said it was a problem with my machine.  A few hours later without any more action on my part, the mail connection started working again.

  I am on a wireless connection.  Sometimes it works very well.  Sometimes it is pathetically slow, due probably due to FSR's insufficient bandwidth.

  Further, FSR is on a number of span-block lists.  This means that certain ISPs will not accept any emails from anyone using FSR.  I reported the problem yesterday after receiving another message saying my email was blocked because FSR was considered a spammer.  The problem was acknowledged by FSR with a very short note saying that they are working on it.  It may be a problem with virus infected machines of FSR users who are spam robots and/or real spammers.  This explanation would also explain the sluggish response at times.  It is alleged that FSR does not have the adequate hardware, software, or technical expertise to find the spammers.

  I like to support local businesses.  However, the problems above are beginning to lead me to consider finding a more reliable, more secure, and more responsive ISP connection.

  Has anyone else had these problems?  Or different explanations/solutions?

  Wayne

  Wayne A. Fox
  waf at moscow.com
  PO Box 9421
  Moscow, ID 83843
  208 882-7975


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tbertruss at aol.com 
    To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:50 PM
    Subject: [Vision2020] V2020 Problems 



    All:

    It took about one minute for my last post to post to the list.  So why after six hours has my previous post from earlier today not posted yet?  Some computer God must know.

    Ted Moffett 


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