[Vision2020] 08-24-04 Breaking AP/Fox News: Bush-Cheney Lawyer Tiedto Swift Boat Vets

[Pat Kraut]

Question: Why doesn't Kerry sue O'Neill and the vets? Why go after Bush? Is he afraid to have all this in court? O'Neill has been at Kerry since his days of carrying the Vietnam flag and his conversation with Cavett. But, Kerry has never been able to silence him, so he goes after Bush. Bush has declared all the so called 5/27 ads bad for the election and that would include the ones 'approved' by the DNC about Bush. Like I have said before Kerry's or Bush's Vietnam record does affect me one way or the other because we all make choices at various times in our lives. I must admit that even then Kerry running around with the Vietnam flag bothered me and I sure wouldn't vote for someone like him. But, that has little to do with all this Vietnam stuff. It is silly at this time of history.
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Cheney Lawyer Tiedto Swift Boat Vets


    
  Bush-Cheney Lawyer Tied to Swift Boat Vets

  Tuesday, August 24, 2004

  Associated Press via Fox News

  WASHINGTON - A lawyer for President Bush's re-election campaign disclosed Tuesday that he has been providing legal advice for a veterans group that is challenging Democratic Sen. John Kerry's (search) account of his Vietnam War service.

  Benjamin Ginsberg's (search) acknowledgment marks the second time in days that an individual associated with the Bush-Cheney campaign has been connected to the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which Kerry accuses of being a front for the Republican incumbent's re-election effort.

  The Bush campaign and the veterans' group say there is no coordination.

  The group "came to me and said, 'We have a point of view we want to get into the First Amendment debate right now. There's a new law. It's very complicated. We want to comply with the law, will you keep us in the bounds of the law?"' Ginsberg said in an interview with The Associated Press. "I said yes, absolutely, as I would do for anyone."

  Ginsberg said he never told the Bush campaign what he discussed with the group, or vice versa, and doesn't advise the group on ad strategies.

  "They have legal questions and when they have legal questions I answer them," Ginsberg said. He said he had not yet decided whether to charge the Swift Boat Veterans a fee for his work.

  Kerry's presidential campaign last week filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission accusing the Bush campaign and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (search) of illegally coordinating the group's ads. The ads allege Kerry has lied about his decorated Vietnam War service; the group's accounts in a television ad have been disputed by Navy records and veterans who served on Kerry's boat.

  "It's another piece of the mounting evidence of the ties between the Bush campaign and this group," Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton said of Ginsberg's admission. "The longer President Bush waits to specifically condemn this smear, the more it looks like his campaign is behind it."

  On Saturday, retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier resigned as a member of the Bush campaign's veterans' steering committee after it was learned that he appeared in the Swift Boat veterans' commercial.

  The Bush campaign, responding to Ginsberg, again denied involvement with the veterans group's ads.

  "There has been no coordination at any time," said campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel.

  Kerry, meanwhile, is the subject of complaints by the Bush campaign and the Republican National Committee accusing his campaign of illegally coordinating anti-Bush ads with soft-money groups on the Democratic side, allegations he and the groups deny.

  Ginsberg also represented the Bush campaign in 2000 and became a prominent figure during the Florida recount.

  He also served as counsel to the RNC in its unsuccessful lawsuit seeking to overturn the nation's campaign finance law, which banned the national party committees from collecting corporate, union and unlimited donations known as soft money and imposed stricter rules on coordination involving parties, candidates and interest groups.

  Ginsberg contends that by offering legal advice to both the Bush campaign and the Swift Boat group, he has done nothing different than other election lawyers in Washington, including attorneys for Kerry and the Democratic National Committee who have also advised soft-money groups. Representing campaigns, parties and outside groups simultaneously is legal and allowed under the law and by the FEC, he said.

  "The truth is there is only a handful of lawyers who live and breathe this law. And so because the coordination rules do not include legal services among the prohibited coordinated activities, we provide legal service," Ginsberg said.

  Larry Noble, head of the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics (search) campaign watchdog group and former FEC general counsel, said it's true that serving as a lawyer for both a campaign and a soft-money group isn't considered automatic evidence of coordination under commission rules, but added that it doesn't mean the FEC won't look at it.

  "I think there's a valid question about when you're talking about strictly legal advice and when you're talking about policy issues and strategic issues," Noble said. "It's fair to ask what the advice is about."

  Joe Sandler, a lawyer for the DNC and a group running anti-Bush ads, MoveOn.org, said there is nothing wrong with serving in both roles at once.

  In addition to the FEC's coordination rules, attorneys are ethically bound to maintain attorney-client confidentiality, Sandler said. They could lose their law license if they violate that, he said.



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