[Vision2020] Commissioner Paul Kimmell (In Re:
OversightbyChristChurch)
Art Deco aka W. Fox
deco at moscow.com
Wed Aug 18 11:33:00 PDT 2004
Tom, Pat, L. J. Streeter, et al,
As many know, Paul Kimmell is not going to answer Tom's legitimate question, at
least not at present.
Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson has already answered it for him and
instructed Kimmell not to answer.
>From the Cult Master's Web-Blot:
"The church exercises oversight in those areas where the church is assigned
oversight in Scriptures. We therefore require our members to be honest,
faithful, conscientious, etc. We don't tell auto mechanics what auto part to
order, or instruct the surgeon on the technics [sic] of heart by-pass surgery.
And we don't tell Paul Kimmell how to vote -- unless the vote were an attempt to
frame iniquity with a law, as the psalmist says...
"...Instead of people demanding that Paul Kimmell answer questions on this
issue, I really think the "demand for answers" needs to be turned around...
"..And we would discipline him if he did not vote no. This is because there is a
separation of church and state (and ought to be), but there is no separation of
morality and state."
[Wilson Web-Blot 08/13/04]
As others have pointed out, the phrase "frame an equity with a law" in Wilson's
World applies to all moral and value questions (not factual ones as he so
cleverly addressed in his Web-Blot). Hence Kimmell, despite rhetorical
disguises and deceptions by the Cult Master, is open to oversight on all
legislative issues. Not only that, but if Kimmell should have the balls not to
accept the proffered oversight, then he will be disciplined by the Cult
[Master].
There is no separation between church and morality according to Wilson. Wilson
argues above that there is no separation between morality and state. Hence,
it is clear that Wilson believes there should be no separation between church
and state despite his statement to the contrary (another application of his
Doctrine of Covenantal Dishonesty.)
The above entries from the Cult Master's Web-Blot clearly show that poor,
affable, everyone-loves-me Kimmell is but a pathetic puppet of a serious
delusionist. Is this what Latah citizens want?
Like others in this discussion I find Kimmell's despicable actions and his
refusal to answer to the electorate a cowardly, but revealing act.
Perhaps Kimmell will find his balls someday, but if you are waiting for that
time, stock up on everything. Meanwhile, the Cult Master rules!
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco at moscow.com
PS: If you really want to know a tragic story, learn how Kimmell's incredible
incompetence and his acceptance of cult oversight has really screwed up the
Moscow Chamber of Commerce, once a vibrant and respect organization.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hansen
To: 'Pat Kraut' ; 'vision2020'
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Commissioner Paul Kimmell (In Re:
OversightbyChristChurch)
It is really quite simple, Ms. Kraut.
It is true that Commissioner Kimmell is not required, by any form of mandate,
to respond to my inquiry, as you are not required to respond to Sunil's. Yet,
Commissioner Kimmell is an elected official. People like to have their
questions answered when presented to local, state, or federal elected officials.
Where your failure to answer questions may not be quantifiable, Commissioner
Kimell's failure is on election day. Commissioner Kimmell's failure to respond
may be an oversight where he may have simply forgotten to answer. Or it may be
an oversight of another nature.
To you my question may appear combative and/or confrontational. This is
merely because I have had to ask the same question nine times without a
response.
Tom Hansen
Not On The Palouse (or Monroe, Louisiana), Not Ever
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
Behalf Of Pat Kraut
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:06 PM
To: vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Commissioner Paul Kimmell (In Re: Oversight
byChristChurch)
Is there something in the site rules that says that a person MUST answer
questions put to them? I know that Sunil keeps asking me the same question as
though I were somehow duty bound to respond and now this one to Paul so I am
thinking it must be in the fine print somewhere. Tom, if Paul does not wish to
respond I really don't think he HAS to, especially since your question is so
combative and confrontational.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Hansen
To: Commissioner Kimmell
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Commissioner Stroschein ; Commissioner Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Commissioner Paul Kimmell (In Re: Oversight by
ChristChurch)
Commissioner Kimmell -
To reiterate a question posed to you THREE weeks ago by Rosemary Huskey:
Will you confirm or deny the following statement from a Vision 2020 post?
"The Christ Church minutes state, "Doug Wilson reported that Paul Kimmell, in
his role as
County Commissioner, is open to oversight from the elders on certain issues."
Pastor Doug Wilson has responded to this inquiry by posting to his weblog.
Do not let the fact that you are not up for reelection for another two years
provide you a false sense of security, Mr. Kimmell. You will find that your
constituents possess excellent long-term memories. And for those who may tend
to forget, I will be here to remind them of your ignorance.
Ignoring questions posted by your tax paying constituents does not reflect
well upon an elected official that has been characterized as responsible and a
"man of integrity" by Pastor Wilson. I am certain that even Pastor Wilson
realizes your lack of accountability concerning your apathy.
I/We am/are patiently awaiting (for the ninth time) your profound response,
Until then . . .
Take care,
Tom Hansen
PS (to Commissioners Nelson and Stroschein - As previously stated, it has
become painstakingly clear that Commissioner Kimmell is not interested in
responding to constituents not located at Anselm House. If a response to this
inquiry is not received from Mr. Kimmell by 5:00 PM on Tuesday (August 24,
2004), we will seek a remedy in a more effective, more demanding fashion.
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