[Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Tom Hansen
thansen@moscow.com
Wed, 28 Apr 2004 05:59:56 -0700
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You are certainly taking alot of liberty in reporting things as "fact".
Here is what I know to be fact by evidence linked here to this forum.
Kerry Enlisted into the United States Navy in February of 1966.
He attended Officer Candidate School from August 1966 thru December 1966 and
was commissioned as an Ensign.
He served two tours in Vietnam and was awaarded three Purple Hearts, a
Bronze Star (with "V" device), and a Silver Star (with "V" device).
He was released from Active Duty in 1970 and placed in the active reserve
until July of 1972.
He was honorably discharge in 1978.
I am even willing to go as far as to say that you are right (that Kerry
spent his first honeymoon in Paris). Now, as you suggest, if he commuicated
with NOrth Vietnamese officials while in Paris, please show us the evidence
(a link, an old newspaper article, anything).
And please show us evidence (of ANY kind) that reflects somebody (at a VVAW
meeting) suggesting assassinating public officials. Even if you are
correct, you further state that this idea was fully rejected (probably
because it was against the law). Yes, if Kerry were present at that meeting
and heard somebody honestly propose assassinate public officials, he has a
moral obligation to report it to the authorities (much like the knowledge of
an illegal casino being operated/funded by a church here in Moscow).
One simple question: If (as you suggest) all this is fact, why isn't King
George, Cheney, Ashcroft, and the remainder of the Republican riff-raff
presenting it to the American public?
And yes I am reasonably "conversant of the issues of the day". I simply am
not up-to-date on unsubstantiated inuendo. That appears to be your area of
expertise.
But, I digress. Please continue. Inquiring minds want to know.
Take care,
Tom Hansen
SFC, US Army (Retired)
Phu Bai, RVN, October 1969 thru May 1970 (not rumor, just fact)
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Duffau [mailto:pduffau@adelphia.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:13 PM
To: thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Mr. Hansen,
In John Kerry's testimony before Congress in 1971, he stated, "I have been
to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to
say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary
Government..." As I said, it is his words. At this time, John Kerry was a
member of the Naval Reserves (Active). Fact.
Twice now I have indicated that there is some evidence, both documentary
and eyewitness based, that placed him at a meeting of the VVAW (I should
have specified this in the first two posts, but assumed [my mistake!] that
you were reasonably conversant of the issues of the day). The plan of Scott
Camil to assassinate senators in favor of the war was overwhelmingly
rejected by the VVAW leadership. Was Kerry there? Did he know of the plan?
Does a Naval officer on Active Reserve status have an obligation to report
such a threat or not if he is aware of it?
Links to Kansas City meeting:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/04/01/kerry_cant
_recall_being_at_71_parley/
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040327/NEWS/403270369/
1134
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24VET.html?pagewanted=2&
ei=5007&en=3fb3db1485d5aace&ex=1398225600&partner=USERLAND
Now, I have established as a fact (assuming that he told the truth) that
Kerry met with the North Vietnamese. Am I still ignorant? Or is ignorance
a charge to be brought when facts are inconveniently arranged?
Again, respectfully,
Paul Duffau
At 08:45 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:
Again (and for the final time), do you have ANY evidence of John Kerry
meeting with North Vietnamese officials, other than his statement that he
went to Paris on his honeymoon?
This is getting ignorant now. This is a waste of my time.
Forget the question. If you want to believe that John Kerry plotted
with the North Vietnamese to assassinate public officials, go right ahead.
Later,
Tom Hansen
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Duffau [mailto:pduffau@adelphia.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:28 PM
To: thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Mr. Hansen,
First, I must apologize. I thought I had been careful to state that
he had apparently attended a meeting in which the assassination of public
officials was discussed. In no way did I mean to imply that John Kerry
actively plotted or participated in any such scheme.
Now, to your questions. I went to John Kerry's website and located
his record of service. It indicates that John Kerry was transferred to the
Naval Reserves on Jan. 3, 1970. On July 1, 1972 he was transferred to
Standby Reserves - Inactive. On Feb 16, 1978, he was released from the
Naval Reserves. So far, we seem to be in agreement, though I wasn't trying
to be disagreeable but to get the facts correct.
http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Service_Record.pdf
Based on these dates, John Kerry definitely was protesting the war
while still a member of the military reserve and also met a representative
of North Vietnam while travelling in France during his honeymoon (since he
has indicated that he was there, I accept that as a fact.) This actually
lends some credence that he would be willing to meet with foreign officials
that want him to win the current election since it would simply repeat past
behavior.
As I indicated before, the record on the meeting in Kansas City is
iffy, based on contemporaneous records from the FBI and a several personal
accounts. Whether Kerry was aware of Scott Camil's proposition is an open
question. That Camil was working for the Kerry campaign in Florida is
indisputable since the campaign has since accepted his resignation. The
campaign also tried to get a Mr. John Musgrove to change his story about
Kerry's attendance. These events also occurred prior to the end of his
active reserve status.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24VET.html?ex=1398225600
&en=3fb3db1485d5aace&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND
My reference to the Inactive Reserve status was merely to get an
accurate timeline and to try to understand the 2 year gap in paperwork. I
believe that the events of 1970-1972 are the ones in dispute.
Respectfully,
Paul Duffau
At 07:33 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:
Two things, Mr. Duffau.
Judging by the first endorsement to LTJG John Kerry's Release from
Active Duty, dated 2 January 1970, he was ordered to inactive reserve.
(http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf). A thorough
search of records on display at his website and numerous searches via
www.google.com resulted in disclosure of one document subsequent to his
release from active duty on 2 January 1970.
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf
A Contingent Transfer to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves effective
1 July 1972, dated 1 March 1972.
This tells me that he was on active reserve status until he
fulfilled his six-year obligation on 1 July 1972 and was then transferred
into the inactive reserve,
Could you please share with us ANY evidence that you may have come
across reflecting Kerry's military service subsequent to 1 July 1972,
especially any evidence linking him to assassinations of public officials?
I anxiously await your response.
Tom Hansen
Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Paul Duffau
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:44 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to ABC
Joan,
You are correct that it is a fact that Kerry was decorated for his
heroism. You are also correct that on his return he protested that same
war. It is also a fact that he did so a a member of the Reserves. He also
met with North Vietnamese in Paris while in the Reserves. And apparently
was at a meeting in which assassinations of public officials was discussed,
while still in the Reserves. (This last is in question - his separation
papers direct him to contact the Naval Reserves immediately upon discharge.
A separate document shows service from '72-'78 for the Reserves. A question
for Tom, since he will be far more familiar than I am with discharge
procedures: When discharged, do you serve for a period of time in the
active Reserves before reassignment to Inactive status?)
In my mind, his behavior after his return is an issue. His
behavior in the service was honorable and praiseworthy. Much of the
criticism that I've seen recently deals with the period after his release
from the Navy.
Paul Duffau
At 03:47 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:
The facts of the case are simple: Kerry was decorated for
heroism in Vietnam. Kerry, on his return, protested the Vietnam War.
That's it. Sum total.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>You =
are certainly=20
taking alot of liberty in reporting things as =
"fact".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Here is what I=20
know to be fact by evidence linked here to this =
forum.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Kerry Enlisted=20
into the United States Navy in February of 1966.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>He =
attended=20
Officer Candidate School from August 1966 thru December 1966 and was=20
commissioned as an Ensign.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>He =
served two=20
tours in Vietnam and was awaarded three Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star =
(with "V"=20
device), and a Silver Star (with "V" device).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>He =
was released=20
from Active Duty in 1970 and placed in the active reserve until July of=20
1972.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>He =
was honorably=20
discharge in 1978.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I =
am even willing=20
to go as far as to say that you are right (that Kerry spent his first =
honeymoon=20
in Paris). Now, as you suggest, if he commuicated with NOrth =
Vietnamese=20
officials while in Paris, please show us the evidence (a link, an old =
newspaper=20
article, anything).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And =
please show=20
us evidence (of ANY kind) that reflects somebody (at a VVAW=20
meeting) suggesting assassinating public officials. Even if =
you are=20
correct, you further state that this idea was fully rejected (probably =
because=20
it was against the law). Yes, if Kerry were present at that =
meeting and=20
heard somebody honestly propose assassinate public officials, he has a =
moral=20
obligation to report it to the authorities (much like the knowledge of =
an=20
illegal casino being operated/funded by a church here in=20
Moscow).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>One =
simple=20
question: If (as you suggest) all this is fact, why isn't King =
George,=20
Cheney, Ashcroft, and the remainder of the Republican riff-raff =
presenting it to=20
the American public?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And =
yes I am=20
reasonably "conversant of the issues of the day". I simply am not=20
up-to-date on unsubstantiated inuendo. That appears to be your =
area of=20
expertise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>But, I=20
digress. Please continue. Inquiring minds want to=20
know.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Take=20
care,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Tom =
Hansen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>SFC, US Army=20
(Retired)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D938273812-28042004><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Phu =
Bai, RVN,=20
October 1969 thru May 1970 (not rumor, just fact)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Paul Duffau=20
[mailto:pduffau@adelphia.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 27, 2004 =
9:13=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> thansen@moscow.com; =
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
RE: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to =
ABC<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Mr.=20
Hansen,<BR><BR>In John Kerry's testimony before Congress in 1971, he =
stated,=20
"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the =
peace talks,=20
that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional=20
Revolutionary Government..." As I said, it is his words. =
At this=20
time, John Kerry was a member of the Naval Reserves (Active).=20
Fact.<BR><BR>Twice now I have indicated that there is some evidence, =
both=20
documentary and eyewitness based, that placed him at a meeting of the =
VVAW (I=20
should have specified this in the first two posts, but assumed [my =
mistake!]=20
that you were reasonably conversant of the issues of the day). =
The plan=20
of Scott Camil to assassinate senators in favor of the war was =
overwhelmingly=20
rejected by the VVAW leadership. Was Kerry there? Did he =
know of=20
the plan? Does a Naval officer on Active Reserve status have an=20
obligation to report such a threat or not if he is aware of =
it?<BR><BR>Links=20
to Kansas City meeting:<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/04/01=
/kerry_cant_recall_being_at_71_parley/"=20
=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles=
/2004/04/01/kerry_cant_recall_being_at_71_parley/</A><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20040327/NE=
WS/403270369/1134"=20
=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/=
20040327/NEWS/403270369/1134</A><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24VET.html?pa=
gewanted=3D2&ei=3D5007&en=3D3fb3db1485d5aace&ex=3D1398225600&=
amp;partner=3DUSERLAND"=20
=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24=
VET.html?pagewanted=3D2&ei=3D5007&en=3D3fb3db1485d5aace&ex=3D=
1398225600&partner=3D</A><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24VET.html?pa=
gewanted=3D2&ei=3D5007&en=3D3fb3db1485d5aace&ex=3D1398225600&=
amp;partner=3DUSERLAND"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">USERLAND<BR><BR></A>Now, I have established as a =
fact=20
(assuming that he told the truth) that Kerry met with the North=20
Vietnamese. Am I still ignorant? Or is ignorance a charge =
to be=20
brought when facts are inconveniently arranged?<BR><BR>Again,=20
respectfully,<BR><BR>Paul Duffau <BR><BR>At 08:45 PM 4/27/04 -0700, =
you=20
wrote:<BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Again (and for the final time), do =
you have=20
ANY evidence of John Kerry meeting with North Vietnamese officials, =
other=20
than his statement that he went to Paris on his=20
honeymoon?</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>This =
is getting=20
ignorant now. This is a waste of my =
time.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Forget the question. If you want to =
believe that=20
John Kerry plotted with the North Vietnamese to assassinate public=20
officials, go right ahead.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Later,</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Tom=20
Hansen</FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>
<DL>
<DD>-----Original Message-----=20
<DD>From:</B> Paul Duffau [<A =
href=3D"mailto:pduffau@adelphia.net"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:pduffau@adelphia.net</A>]=20
<DD>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:28 PM=20
<DD>To:</B> thansen@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com=20
<DD>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to=20
ABC<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD>Mr. Hansen,<BR><BR>
<DD>First, I must apologize. I thought I had been careful =
to state=20
that he had apparently attended a meeting in which the =
assassination of=20
public officials was discussed. In no way did I mean to =
imply that=20
John Kerry actively plotted or participated in any such =
scheme.<BR><BR>
<DD>Now, to your questions. I went to John Kerry's website =
and=20
located his record of service. It indicates that John =
Kerry was=20
transferred to the Naval Reserves on Jan. 3, 1970. On July =
1, 1972=20
he was transferred to Standby Reserves - Inactive. On Feb =
16,=20
1978, he was released from the Naval Reserves. So far, we =
seem to=20
be in agreement, though I wasn't trying to be disagreeable but =
to get=20
the facts correct. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Service_Record.pdf"=20
=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Service_Record.pdf</A><=
BR><BR>
<DD>Based on these dates, John Kerry definitely was protesting =
the war=20
while still a member of the military reserve and also met a=20
representative of North Vietnam while travelling in France =
during his=20
honeymoon (since he has indicated that he was there, I accept =
that as a=20
fact.) This actually lends some credence that he would be =
willing=20
to meet with foreign officials that want him to win the current =
election=20
since it would simply repeat past behavior.<BR><BR>
<DD> As I indicated before, the record on the meeting in =
Kansas=20
City is iffy, based on contemporaneous records from the FBI and =
a=20
several personal accounts. Whether Kerry was aware of =
Scott=20
Camil's proposition is an open question. That Camil was =
working=20
for the Kerry campaign in Florida is indisputable since the =
campaign has=20
since accepted his resignation. The campaign also tried to =
get a=20
Mr. John Musgrove to change his story about Kerry's =
attendance. =20
These events also occurred prior to the end of his active =
reserve=20
status. <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24VET.html?ex=
=3D1398225600&en=3D3fb3db1485d5aace&ei=3D5007&partner=3DUSERL=
AND"=20
=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/24/politics/campaign/24=
VET.html?ex=3D1398225600&en=3D3fb3db1485d5aace&ei=3D5007&part=
ner=3DUSERLAND</A><BR><BR>
<DD>My reference to the Inactive Reserve status was merely to =
get an=20
accurate timeline and to try to understand the 2 year gap in=20
paperwork. I believe that the events of 1970-1972 are the =
ones in=20
dispute.<BR><BR>
<DD>Respectfully,<BR><BR>
<DD>Paul Duffau<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DD>At 07:33 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:<FONT color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">
<DD>Two things, Mr. Duffau.</FONT>=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD>Judging by the first endorsement to LTJG John Kerry's =
Release from=20
Active Duty, dated 2 January 1970, he was ordered to inactive =
reserve.=20
(<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf">http=
://www.johnkerry.com/about/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf</A>). =20
A thorough search of records on display at his website and =
numerous=20
searches via <A =
href=3D"http://www.google.com">www.google.com</A>=20
resulted in disclosure of one document subsequent to his =
release from=20
active duty on 2 January 1970.</FONT>=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD><A=20
=
href=3D"http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf">h=
ttp://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf</A></FONT> =
<DD>A Contingent Transfer to the Standby (Inactive) Reserves =
effective=20
1 July 1972, dated 1 March 1972.=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD>This tells me that he was on active reserve status until =
he=20
fulfilled his six-year obligation on 1 July 1972 and was then=20
transferred into the inactive reserve,</FONT>=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD>Could you please share with us ANY evidence that you may =
have come=20
across reflecting Kerry's military service subsequent to 1 =
July 1972,=20
especially any evidence linking him to assassinations of =
public=20
officials?</FONT>=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD>I anxiously await your response.</FONT>=20
<DD><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=20
<DD>Tom Hansen</FONT>=20
<DD>Not On The Palouse, Not Ever <FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>
<DD>-----Original Message-----=20
<DD>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [<A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com%5DOn"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On</A> =
Behalf Of=20
Paul Duffau=20
<DD>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:44 PM=20
<DD>To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
<DD>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ribbons, medals, and lying to=20
ABC<BR><BR></FONT>
<DD>Joan,<BR><BR>
<DD>You are correct that it is a fact that Kerry was decorated =
for his=20
heroism. You are also correct that on his return he =
protested=20
that same war. It is also a fact that he did so a a =
member of=20
the Reserves. He also met with North Vietnamese in Paris =
while=20
in the Reserves. And apparently was at a meeting in =
which=20
assassinations of public officials was discussed, while =
still in=20
the Reserves. (This last is in question - his separation =
papers=20
direct him to contact the Naval Reserves immediately upon=20
discharge. A separate document shows service from =
'72-'78 for=20
the Reserves. A question for Tom, since he will be far =
more=20
familiar than I am with discharge procedures: When =
discharged,=20
do you serve for a period of time in the active Reserves =
before=20
reassignment to Inactive status?)<BR><BR>
<DD>In my mind, his behavior after his return is an =
issue. His=20
behavior in the service was honorable and praiseworthy. =
Much of=20
the criticism that I've seen recently deals with the period =
after his=20
release from the Navy. <BR><BR>
<DD>Paul Duffau<BR><BR>
<DD>At 03:47 PM 4/27/04 -0700, you wrote:=20
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<DD>The facts of the case are simple: Kerry was decorated =
for=20
heroism in Vietnam. Kerry, on his return, protested =
the=20
Vietnam War. That's it. Sum total.=20
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