[Vision2020] Global Warming

[Troy Merrill]

No, but I will admit that the figure includes things such as agricultural
inputs and does not credit any secondary benefits derived by other species.
I also will probably not be able to provide an appropriate citation today;
it's not a figure I made up.

Troy Merrill

----- Original Message -----
From: "TEX" <tex@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu>
To: "Troy Merrill" <troy1@moscow.com>
Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming


>
> 60% of available energy? You are joking, right?
>
> Tex
> tex@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu
>
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Troy Merrill wrote:
>
> > Dan Carscallen wrote:   People can't keep blaming mankind for everything
> > that's happening in the world.
> >
> > Mr. Carscallen,
> >
> > Then who is responsible?  There are large scale natural processes which
are
> > beyond human control.  These processes did not cause massive
deforestation,
> > ozone depletion, the greenhouse effect, nor do they capture for their
> > exclusive benefit appproximately 60% of available energy.  Mankind does
> > that.  Who is responsible?
> >
> > Troy Merrill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge@yahoo.com>
> > To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming
> >
> >
> > > I heard the one about the volcanic eruptions as well.
> > > I'm not convinced yet about warming/cooling cycles of
> > > the planet.  The warming one is easy enough for me to
> > > believe since we have a constant energy source beaming
> > > down on us.  But what about the cooling cycle?  What
> > > events occur to cool down the planet?  A while ago I
> > > read about a theory that the last ice age was caused
> > > by a large meteor that struck off the coast of the
> > > Yucatan peninsula which triggered a series of volcanic
> > > eruptions that resulted in the atmosphere being filled
> > > with smoke/ash/dirt and essentially encompassing the
> > > planet in near darkness for 6 months which resulted in
> > > a nuclear winter.  It sounds plausable to me that this
> > > type of event would cool down the planet and also
> > > wreak havoc with the eco system - including wiping out
> > > the dinosaurs.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Dan Carscallen <predator75@moscow.com> wrote:
> > > > Didn't insult me.  I agreed, and saw the humor.
> > > >
> > > > I also support recycling (did my sorting this
> > > > morning dark 'n early) and wouldn't mind if my
> > > > pickup got better gas mileage, but we also all have
> > > > to realize that we have very little control over or
> > > > actual affect on this planet.  People can't keep
> > > > blaming mankind for everything that's happening in
> > > > the world.  I have read that volcanic eruptions do
> > > > more to contribute to the greenhouse effect than
> > > > anything mankind has done.  Of course, I have no
> > > > websites or articles to back myself up, so anyone --
> > > > *cough* Donovan Arnold *cough* ;^) -- can say I'm
> > > > just blowing smoke.
> > > >
> > > > DC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Tom Hansen
> > > > To: Dan Carscallen ; vision2020@moscow.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:20 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Global Warming
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Carscallen -
> > > >
> > > > My posting was a humorous response to the topic, not
> > > > to be taken seriously.  I am certain that most V2020
> > > > subscribers can understand that.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I have not only supported recycling and
> > > > reduced use of fossil fuels, I also participate in
> > > > such programs (and have been doing so since my first
> > > > class at UI in 1992)  My philosophy is that we are
> > > > all on this rock together.
> > > >
> > > > I apologize if my attempt at humor insulted you.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> > > > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Dan
> > > > Carscallen
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:24 PM
> > > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Global Warming
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Tom said:
> > > >
> > > >   >Well, you now what this means?
> > > >
> > > >   >No size restrictions and screw the limit!  Let's
> > > > go fishing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Agreed, Tom.
> > > >
> > > >   The earth used to be a lot warmer back in the time
> > > > of the dinosaurs, and it's been a heckuva lot
> > > > colder.  It's all cyclic, we just happen to be in
> > > > between "ages".  Are we also supposed to keep the
> > > > tectonic plates still because the continents
> > > > shouldn't be moving either?
> > > >
> > > >   DC
> > >
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