[Vision2020] Does anyone know who Tom Drake is?
Dale Courtney
dmcourtn@moscow.com
Fri, 31 Oct 2003 12:02:03 -0800
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Sunil,
You never fail to crack me up! The judges must just love your =
diversionary tactics in the courtroom. Let's see -- would this be a =
distractionary move? Or changing the subject. Hmmm....
A couple points for those whom you mislead:=20
a.. First, I never complained that Drake didn't use the "primary" =
meaning of the word dogma. (which turns out to be the primary meaning =
over at =
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&va=3Ddogma). =
As you well know, the sequence is a relative priority of meaning; and =
that changes with time (and authors).=20
b.. Second, he castigated Wilson for using the meaning that Drake =
didn't acknowledge ("an authoritative tenant").=20
c.. Third, the very fact that you dislike the term "theory" as applied =
to the doctrine of evolution demonstrates that it is a dogma.=20
d.. Fourth, see my last Email concerning trains and trains.=20
Best,
Dale
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sunil Ramalingam=20
To: dmcourtn@moscow.com ; vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:28
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Does anyone know who Tom Drake is?
Oh, that rascally Evolutionary Theory, disguising itself by using the =
word 'Theory' in its name, so that fools like Tom Drake will try to =
argue that it isn't in fact 'Dogma.' And it (Evolutionary Theory) would =
have gotten away with it too if Dale hadn't pointed out how Drake had =
made a fool - no, wait, that's 'complete fool' - of himself in 'the DN =
editorial.'
I myself thought he had written 'a letter,' but then I was totally =
hoodwinked by this dastardly and mysterious Drake, if that's his real =
name, and am therefore somewhat suspect and unreliable. =20
Yep, I bet Tom Drake's powder is now dampened by his tears, after =
being exposed in such large font. See if he ever dares use anything but =
the first dictionary definition of a word again. If I see him using the =
word 'plume,' he'd better be referring to a feather, and not a rising or =
expanding body of smoke. (Newly Revised and Updated Random House =
Webster's College Dictionary with red cover.)
Sunil
>From: "Dale Courtney"=20
>To:=20
>Subject: [Vision2020] Does anyone know who Tom Drake is?=20
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:43:17 -0800=20
>=20
>Does anyone know who Tom Drake is? He made a complete fool out of =
himself today in the DN editorial. He wrote:=20
>=20
>"Evolutionary theory is no more a dogma, ideology or a worldview than =
is Newtonian physics. Neither theory tells one how to live or attempts =
to address moral issues. Scientific theories attempt to explain past and =
present natural phenomena based on existing physical evidence. Science =
explains what is and was, not what should be."=20
>=20
>Webster's primary definition of "dogma" is "something held as an =
established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet." If =
the theory of evolution doesn't fall into that category, I don't know =
what does! A secondary definition of dogma is "a doctrine or body of =
doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively =
proclaimed by a church." It's pretty ridiculous to castigate someone for =
using the primary meaning of a word.=20
>=20
>Perhaps before he goes shooting in public, he should ensure that his =
powder isn't all wet? Or at least check his dictionary before writing =
publicly?=20
>=20
>Best,=20
>Dale=20
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<DIV>Sunil,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You never fail to crack me up! The judges must just love your =
diversionary=20
tactics in the courtroom. Let's see -- would this be a distractionary =
move? Or=20
changing the subject. Hmmm....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>A couple points for those whom you mislead: </DIV>
<UL>
<LI>First, I never complained that Drake didn't use the "primary" =
meaning of=20
the word dogma. (which turns out to be the primary meaning over at <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&v=
a=3Ddogma">http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=3DDictionary&am=
p;va=3Ddogma</A>).=20
As you well know, the sequence is a relative priority of meaning; and =
that=20
changes with time (and authors). </LI>
<LI>Second, he castigated Wilson for using the meaning that Drake =
didn't=20
acknowledge ("an authoritative tenant"). </LI>
<LI>Third, the very fact that you dislike the term "theory" as applied =
to the=20
doctrine of evolution demonstrates that it is a dogma. </LI>
<LI>Fourth, see my last Email concerning trains and trains. </LI></UL>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV>Dale</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsunilramalingam@hotmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddmcourtn@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dmcourtn@moscow.com">dmcourtn@moscow.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 31, 2003=20
11:28</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Does =
anyone=20
know who Tom Drake is?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Oh, that rascally Evolutionary Theory, disguising itself by using =
the word=20
'Theory' in its name, so that fools like Tom Drake will try to =
argue that=20
it isn't in fact 'Dogma.' And it (Evolutionary Theory) would =
have gotten=20
away with it too if Dale hadn't pointed out how Drake had made a fool =
- no,=20
wait, that's 'complete fool' - of himself in 'the DN editorial.'</P>
<P>I myself thought he had written 'a letter,' but then I was totally=20
hoodwinked by this dastardly and mysterious Drake, if that's his real =
name,=20
and am therefore somewhat suspect and unreliable. </P>
<P>Yep, I bet Tom Drake's powder is now dampened by his tears, after =
being=20
exposed in such large font. See if he ever dares use anything =
but the=20
first dictionary definition of a word again. If I see him using =
the word=20
'plume,' he'd better be referring to a feather, and not a rising or =
expanding=20
body of smoke. (Newly Revised and Updated Random House Webster's =
College=20
Dictionary with red cover.)</P>
<P>Sunil</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Dale Courtney" <DMCOURTN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [Vision2020] Does anyone know who Tom Drake =
is?=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:43:17 -0800=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Does anyone know who Tom Drake is? He made a complete =
fool out=20
of himself today in the DN editorial. He wrote:=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>"Evolutionary theory is no more a dogma, ideology or a=20
worldview than is Newtonian physics. Neither theory tells one how to =
live or=20
attempts to address moral issues. Scientific theories attempt to =
explain past=20
and present natural phenomena based on existing physical evidence. =
Science=20
explains what is and was, not what should be."=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Webster's primary definition of "dogma" is "something =
held as=20
an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet." =
If the=20
theory of evolution doesn't fall into that category, I don't know what =
does! A=20
secondary definition of dogma is "a doctrine or body of doctrines =
concerning=20
faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a =
church."=20
It's pretty ridiculous to castigate someone for using the primary =
meaning of a=20
word.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Perhaps before he goes shooting in public, he should =
ensure=20
that his powder isn't all wet? Or at least check his dictionary before =
writing=20
publicly?=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Best,=20
<DIV></DIV>>Dale=20
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