[Vision2020] Fee Parking??
Bruce and Jean Livingston
jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:38:12 -0700
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In the last two weeks, I heard and dismissed these rumors about downtown =
parking fees as just that - rumors. I supposed that the Moscow Arts =
Commission ("MAC," of which I am a member) would have heard something of =
this, given its potential effect upon the Farmers Market, were the City =
behind the idea. I suspected that if there were any truth to the =
"downtown parking permit" notion that it was just an idea being tossed =
around by someone or some entity who would like to get more control of =
the limited parking. =20
I can now confirm that there is some substance to the rumor, in that the =
Moscow Downtown Association ("MDA") is in the initial stages of studying =
various parking proposals that would allocate the limited parking more =
efficiently or at least differently. It appears that the MDA has a ways =
to go before it comes up with a final proposal. Obviously, any proposal =
will need to be approved by the City. I would expect plenty of public =
discussion on any proposed changes, so stay tuned.
I am a firm believer in a vibrant, strong, downtown core. I would like =
to consider seriously the concerns of those downtown business owners who =
are trying to make our downtown better. I don't advocate blind, "rubber =
stamp" approval of any ideas brought forth by any particular interest =
group, as public discussion and consideration of alternative or =
opposing viewpoints is always a good thing. We all have a stake in our =
downtown. Join the discussion near its beginning.
As for the Farmer's Market itself, which could be impacted by parking =
allocation changes, I am confident that the impact upon the Farmers =
Market will be a significant consideration in deciding which parking =
changes, if any, that the City might approve. Certainly, parking =
changes will be something that MAC considers seriously. I would expect =
that MAC will take a strong position in favor of the Market, and it =
would seem that "Market exceptions" for Saturday parking will be =
manageable under any plan, just as they are now.
I concur with the posts of fellow MAC commissioner, Mark Semans, as well =
as Mike Curley, that Jon Kimberling is an excellent model of a =
responsive, communicative, elected official, and that we could all =
benefit from conducting ourselves accordingly. Seeking input near the =
genesis of various proposals and trying to notify publicly the different =
people who will be most impacted is something that should benefit us all =
-- by leading to fuller consideration of more of the otherwise =
unanticipated effects that any particular proposal may have.
As for John Danahy's other question, about whether the City wants to =
move the Farmers Market to Main Street, I am unaware of that, too -- =
insofar as the "City" is thought to be the source of the idea. (I =
suppose some individuals in City administration or government may be =
supportive of part or all of such an idea, but the only knowledge I have =
comes from a recent MAC meeting.) What I do know is that the Moscow =
Downtown Association would like us, MAC, to consider possible changes to =
the Market in the hope that concerns (of those business owners who do =
not feel they get much benefit from the Market) could be addressed in a =
way which benefits both the Market and the Downtown. At our recent MAC =
meeting, we decided to form a committee that would study any proposal =
put forth by the MDA. That committee would have a majority of Farmers =
Market vendors, along with several MAC and MDA representatives.=20
The preliminary MDA proposal, as I understand it, is to move part of the =
Market to that portion of Main Street near Friendship Square, and to =
remove one of the three "strips" or "aisles" of the Market from the =
Jackson Street lot, thus maintaining the same basic size of the Market, =
but changing its layout somewhat. Personally, I would be in favor of =
expanding the Market: placing some vendors on Main Street and increasing =
the "art" component, perhaps with more dance and theater performances. =
However, I would only want to expand the Market, or move a part of the =
Market, to Main Street if the effected Main Street business owners =
wanted such an expansion. =20
Before all of this discussion mushrooms into a conspiracy theory of epic =
proportions, I recommend that the various groups who will be most =
impacted get involved and be part of the discussions. The biggest =
impact of proposed Farmers Market changes would probably be felt by the =
vendors themselves, so obviously they need to be involved. It seems to =
me that there are probably at least three groups of downtown interests =
as well, those business owners who get lots of benefit from the Market, =
those who don't, and the people who actually live downtown and have to =
park their cars there. And of course, the Farmer's Market is one of the =
strengths of this City which makes Moscow a special place to live, so =
all Moscow residents have an interest in the Market, too. =20
Interested citizens, as these various proposals come forth (none of =
which have yet been presented), make your views known to MAC, to vendors =
at the Market, to the Mayor, City Council and Administration. We are =
all in this together, and trying to get it right.
Bruce Livingston
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Danahy=20
To: Vision2020=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Fee Parking??
I just heard an unbelievable rumor that the city intends to eliminate =
the free parking off Jackson between Third and Sixth and use the lot for =
permit only parking seven days a week. Also, in order to free up more =
permit space, the city wants to move the Farmers Market to Main Street =
on Saturdays, and eliminate Main Street parking to accommodate the =
market. Is this really true??
John
jdanahy@turbonet.com
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<DIV>In the last two weeks, I heard and dismissed these rumors about =
downtown=20
parking fees as just that - rumors. I supposed that the Moscow =
Arts=20
Commission ("MAC," of which I am a member) would have heard =
something of=20
this, given its potential effect upon the Farmers Market, were the City =
behind=20
the idea. I suspected that if there were any truth to the =
"downtown=20
parking permit" notion that it was just an idea being tossed around=20
by someone or some entity who would like to get more control of the =
limited=20
parking. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I can now confirm that there is some substance to the rumor, in =
that the=20
Moscow Downtown Association ("MDA") is in the initial stages of =
studying=20
various parking proposals that would allocate the limited parking more=20
efficiently or at least differently. It appears that the MDA has a =
ways to=20
go before it comes up with a final proposal. Obviously, any =
proposal=20
will need to be approved by the City. I would expect plenty of =
public=20
discussion on any proposed changes, so stay tuned.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am a firm believer in a vibrant, strong, downtown core. I =
would=20
like to consider seriously the concerns of those downtown business =
owners who=20
are trying to make our downtown better. I don't advocate blind, =
"rubber=20
stamp" approval of any ideas brought forth by any particular interest =
group, as=20
public discussion and consideration of alternative or opposing =
viewpoints=20
is always a good thing. We all have a stake in our downtown. =
Join=20
the discussion near its beginning.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for the Farmer's Market itself, which could be impacted by =
parking=20
allocation changes, I am confident that the impact upon the Farmers =
Market will=20
be a significant consideration in deciding which parking changes, if =
any, that=20
the City might approve. Certainly, parking =
changes will be=20
something that MAC considers seriously. I would expect that MAC =
will take=20
a strong position in favor of the Market, and it would seem that "Market =
exceptions" for Saturday parking will be manageable under any plan, just =
as they=20
are now.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I concur with the posts of fellow MAC commissioner, Mark Semans, as =
well=20
as Mike Curley, that Jon Kimberling is an excellent model of a =
responsive,=20
communicative, elected official, and that we could all benefit from =
conducting=20
ourselves accordingly. Seeking input near the genesis of =
various=20
proposals and trying to notify publicly the different people who =
will be=20
most impacted is something that should benefit us all -- by leading =
to=20
fuller consideration of more of the otherwise unanticipated effects that =
any=20
particular proposal may have.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As for John Danahy's other question, about whether the City wants =
to move=20
the Farmers Market to Main Street, I am unaware of that, too -- insofar =
as the=20
"City" is thought to be the source of the idea. (I suppose some=20
individuals in City administration or government may be supportive of =
part or=20
all of such an idea, but the only knowledge I have comes from =
a recent=20
MAC meeting.) What I do know is that the Moscow Downtown =
Association would=20
like us, MAC, to consider possible changes to the Market in the =
hope that=20
concerns (of those business owners who do not feel they get much benefit =
from=20
the Market) could be addressed in a way which benefits both the Market =
and the=20
Downtown. At our recent MAC meeting, we decided to form a =
committee that=20
would study any proposal put forth by the MDA. That committee =
would have a=20
majority of Farmers Market vendors, along with several MAC and=20
MDA representatives. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The preliminary MDA proposal, as I understand it, is to move part =
of the=20
Market to that portion of Main Street near Friendship Square, and to =
remove one=20
of the three "strips" or "aisles" of the Market from the=20
Jackson Street lot, thus maintaining the same basic size of the =
Market, but=20
changing its layout somewhat. Personally, I would be in favor of =
expanding=20
the Market: placing some vendors on Main Street and increasing the "art" =
component, perhaps with more dance and theater performances. =
However, I=20
would only want to expand the Market, or move a part of the Market, to =
Main=20
Street if the effected Main Street business owners wanted such an=20
expansion. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Before all of this discussion mushrooms into a conspiracy theory of =
epic=20
proportions, I recommend that the various groups who will be most =
impacted=20
get involved and be part of the discussions. The biggest impact of =
proposed Farmers Market changes would probably be felt by the vendors=20
themselves, so obviously they need to be involved. It seems to me =
that=20
there are probably at least three groups of downtown interests as well, =
those=20
business owners who get lots of benefit from the Market, those who=20
don't, and the people who actually live downtown and have to park =
their=20
cars there. And of course, the Farmer's Market is one of the =
strengths of=20
this City which makes Moscow a special place to live, so =
all=20
Moscow residents have an interest in the Market, too. =
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Interested citizens, as these various proposals come forth =
(none of=20
which have yet been presented), make your views known to MAC, to vendors =
at the=20
Market, to the Mayor, City Council and Administration. We are =
all in=20
this together, and trying to get it right.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bruce Livingston</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<A title=3Djdanahy@turbonet.com =
href=3D"mailto:jdanahy@turbonet.com">John=20
Danahy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 23, =
2003 5:21=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Fee =
Parking??</DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just heard an =
unbelievable rumor=20
that the city intends to eliminate the free parking off Jackson =
between Third=20
and Sixth and use the lot for permit only parking seven days a =
week. =20
Also, in order to free up more permit space, the city wants to move =
the=20
Farmers Market to </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Main Street</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> on Saturdays, and eliminate =
</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Main =
Street</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> parking to =
accommodate the=20
market. Is this really true??</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
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