[Vision2020] Meeting Educational Needs

[John Harrell]

Hello Rose Huskey,

It is interesting how you just picked out Hitler from that group. 

Would you like to address the other for us also?

In case you have forgot, here they are again:

QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I 
calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass 
on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they 
will know nothing else but this new community.”

ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933. 
Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise 
and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about the schools and their
indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth Corps).

It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks, and I will 
control the state."

Norman Thomas, Socialist and member of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly 
told the world, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, 
but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the 
Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without 
ever knowing how it happened."

"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a generation I will build 
a Socialist state."

Lesbian author Patricia Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community, 
"It is the FIRST fact of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns 
the future."

In his book ‘The Science Of Power’, Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give us the young. 
-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new Earth in a SINGLE 
generation."

Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in one of his books tells us this; "Everything 
depends on passing out the expert opinions of the social scientists to the 
masses of the people; the schools are the only adequate agency for this function."

Lastly, the American Humanist Association understands the importance of 
capturing the children – for they have written: "In order to capture this 
nation, one has to totally remove moral and spiritual values and absolutes from
the thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard of 
right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only absolute 
to be gained."

Cheers!
John Harrell



--- DonaldH675@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Visionaries,
> The recent discussions between John Harrell and Donovan Arnold have raised 
> some interesting questions about public vs. private education.  I am hopeful 
> that John (et al) can add some factual information to the debate.  We know that 
> public schools accept all children regardless of physical, emotional, or mental 
> challenges.  John, can you share with us, in general demographic terms, how 
> Logos addresses the special educational needs of these children?  How many kids 
> needing special ed services are in Logos?  In the event that severely 
> handicapped or even moderately handicapped children are not admitted, what solution 
> is offered to the parents of these kids?  Would it be no school, home school, 
> or government school?
> I am surprised, John, that you would introduce the rhetoric of Hitler in an 
> attempt to prove your argument against liberals and public schools.  We have 
> talked before on this list about Hitler's expressed career guidance for women, 
> that is, "children, church, and kitchen."  The uncanny similarity to the life 
> goals for the women of Christ Church should be disturbing to you - if you see 
> Hitler and his fascist philosophy as problematic.  I think it is fair to say 
> that book burnings, rabid racism, hateful homophobia - the Rev. Fred Phelps for 
> example,  anti-Semitism and demands for lockstep political thinking are 
> accurately associated with the Christian right - and by historical extension, the 
> 3rd Reich.   Come to think of it, handicapped people were also excluded from 
> social interaction and education in those splendid days of German Aryan magic.
> John, I know that you are not a Nazi - and I know that the majority of Christ 
> Church members aren't either.  I also know that Donovan and his family have a 
> strong and admirable history of commitment to meeting the social and 
> educational needs of disabled people.  And yes, you pay a considerable amount of money 
> to educate your children in a way that is philosophically and religiously 
> meaningful to you in addition to supporting a public educational system that does 
> not serve your needs.  Here's the difference, no matter how much money I was 
> willing to pay to educate my grandchildren at Logos School, because of my 
> religious, social, and political beliefs they would not be admitted.  On the other 
> hand, your children would be welcomed into public schools without qualifying 
> questions.  Private schools, by their nature, are deliberately developed on 
> the idea of exclusion.  Thankfully, our founding fathers and mothers, had a 
> larger vision for American children, and I have to say, it gives me special 
> pleasure that private school folks get to pay for it too.
> Best,
> Rose Huskey 
> 
> 


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