[Vision2020] MSD Pay and Tenure--a reply

[John Harrell]

Mr. Donovan Arnold,

You have to be kidding again. This is so hilarious. You really need to 
start thinking.

"Yes, and millions more are doing it for free, it is called public school."

For Free!?!? You are joking!

Why is it all liberals think everything is free if it comes from the government?
Free services for this, free services for that, free free free! Think again. It
is not free. The only thing that is being freed here is my money from my pocket.

Please Mr. Arnold, STOP FREEING ME FROM MY MONEY! 

I work hard to provide for my family, but how am I supposed to provide for my 
family if you keep freeing me from my money? How am I supposed to provide for my 
elderly parents if you keep freeing me from my money? How are my elderly parents 
supposed to be live if you keep freeing them from their money? More levies, more
bonds, more free services, more free schools, yea, right, stop joking around!
Get outta my pocketbook, get outta my family.

Liberals - wrong in the past, wrong now, and wrong for the future!

Cheers!
John Harrell




--- Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold@hotmail.com> wrote:

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Dale,

I am glad you broke up your responses into many emails. Otherwise I don't think I could
handle so many misconceptions and twists of the truth in one email.  


>"*If* the cost driver of education were the children, then it's senseless 




>that inflation-adjusted spending has *increased* by over 100% in that same 




>time."


This is where another one of assumptions is WRONG! It is not children that causes the
cost of of school to rise. It is the cost of things related to the children. You cannot
compare 1992 to 2003. You seem to think that "child enrollment" is the only factor that
should affect costs of education. This is like saying that rent should go down in
proportion to the number of children you have in the house. My parents are paying 4x in
costs of rent, utilities, and medical costs that they were in 1986 when they had 3
children in the house. Gee, perhaps they should go without medical treatment, housing or
utilities. 


Things have changed a bit since then, and other costs such as medical, housing, rent,
utilities and quality of life have changed since 1992. 


"How odd. Instate tuition at UI is $3,000 per year; out of State tuition at 




>UI is $10,000 per year; and MSD's "tuition" in FY01 was $8,772 and is 




>projected to have been $10,112 in FY03. That means that it is cheaper to 




>give someone a B.A. than it is to put them from 9th to 12th grade."


This like the twisting of all your other statistics is WRONG!


Let's compare the two shall we:


Cost of food to a student at UI 120 meals a month: $1200


Tuition and fees: $3144


Books: $650


Required medical insurance: $641


Parking permit $65


Portion paid by the tax payer: $10,000


Number of Hours spend in class: 15


Total Cost: $15,700 for minimum of 15 hours of class for 8 months of classes. Or about
$500 a credit hour (dived by two semesters assuming 15 credits a semester). Estimated
cost of attendance in 2006: Over $20,000


Total Cost of attending to student Public elementary school $0


Total Cost of attending one pupil to Public elementary school to tax payer $8777


Total hours in school 30 hours of class per week for nine months


Total cost $146 per credit how hour. That is a 300% less cost then a BA degree. 


"How is that possible? You've *got* to be kidding! Non-parochial private 




>schools all across the country do it every day. You can get a top of the 




>line education for under $3k/year. And homeschoolers across the country are 




>doing it on a daily basis." 


Yes, and millions more are doing it for free, it is called public school. 


Donovan J Arnold


 


  







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