[Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining enrollment
John Harrell
johnbharrell@yahoo.com
Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:42:58 -0700 (PDT)
LOL
Mr. Donovan Arnold,
Your thinking is flawed. You seem to have this modernistic thought that requires
that the government do everything for us. The same thought as Marx, and Lenin,
et al. You think progressive taxes are good, that government controlled education
is good, that government control of farming is good, that government control over
all services are good. Iraq's dictator had the same kind of thinking, as did
Hitler. This kind of thinking has been proven to be false and no longer a valid
way for society to function. Iraq's dictator had the same kind of thinking, as
did Hitler.
Your liberal thought has been wrong in the past, wrong now, and will always
be wrong for the future.
Why should the government control and dictate education? This is a thought process
that Hitler loved.
Here let me help you understand the kinds of people that you are associating
with:
QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I
calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will pass
on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they
will know nothing else but this new community.”
ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889–1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6, 1933.
Quoted in William L. Shirer, “Education in the Third Reich,” ch. 8, The Rise
and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about the schools and their
indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth Corps).
It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks, and I will
control the state."
Norman Thomas, Socialist and member of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly
told the world, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism,
but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without
ever knowing how it happened."
"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a generation I will build
a Socialist state."
Lesbian author Patricia Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community,
"It is the FIRST fact of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns
the future."
In his book ‘The Science Of Power’, Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give us the young.
-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new Earth in a SINGLE
generation."
Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in one of his books tells us this; "Everything
depends on passing out the expert opinions of the social scientists to the
masses of the people; the schools are the only adequate agency for this function."
Lastly, the American Humanist Association understands the importance of
capturing the children – for they have written: "In order to capture this
nation, one has to totally remove moral and spiritual values and absolutes from
the thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard of
right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only absolute
to be gained."
Yes, so when it comes to MY children, NOT YOURS, I take the responsiblity of
raising them very serious. And the government should not have anything to do
with it. The government has proven it can't create a "quality" education even
if tries; and it has tried and tried and tried, with more money and more money
and more money, yet if fails and fails and fails.
Let me say it again, in case you missed it the first time:
Your liberal thought has been wrong in the past, wrong now, and will always
be wrong for the future.
Cheers!
John Harrell
--- Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold@hotmail.com> wrote:
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John,
Interesting the mentality that you have. A couple of questions I have for you.
1) Do you refer to children as property? Like a couch, dog, or car.
2) You want people to stay out of the choices and the options you choose for your
children.
Do you then favor that all non-parents, or parents with children not in the school
system, not pay any taxes to go to the public educational system? If they do it will
effect the options and choices you have for your children. Why should they pay for the
maintenance and care of *property* that is not theirs? Further, why should they give huge
sums of money that they have absolutely no control over what happens to it?
3) If parents are given absolute control of their children, how do we avoid abusive
parents? Isn't regulating the parents a form of liberal control over a family? Doesn't
preventing a child from an education a form of abuse?
4) Isn't giving parents vouchers a form of welfare considering that all taxpayers are
putting into the voucher yet are not getting something from it?
5) Why should poor income people that have no children pay for your child's education
when you have more money?
6) Isn't the cost of paying for your child preventing some people from saving and having
their own children?
7) Having to pay for your child prevents some people from having children, isn't that
*you* getting involved in their personal family life and the decisions they would like to
make?
I am just confused as to the way you are thinking. I am not implying you don't care for
*your* children, it is evident that you do. But your thinking seems flawed and you need
to clear some things up. Thanks!
Donovan J Arnold
>From: John Harrell
>To: thansen@moscow.com, vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining enrollment
>Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
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>Tom had said, "What is more important: your tax liability or your children's future?"
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>You are joking again - right?!
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>Well at least you said "your" children and not "our" children. So I thank you for that!
>
>And as a result of your question, thank you for allowing me to choose what is the best
for my children. (A most illogical question posed in the first place. But false dilemmas
are typical.)
>
>But will you really allow me to decide what is best for my childrens future? Or will you
really decide that they are your children also and therefore try to decide for yourself
what is best for my children. Get your nose out my family! But typical of most liberals,
you must try to control every aspect of my life. Go away, leave my children alone!
>
>Cheers!
>
>John Harrell
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