[Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining enrollment

Tom Hansen thansen@moscow.com
Sat, 28 Jun 2003 05:37:13 -0700


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That is where the difference lies in this listserve.  Some of us ask, "What
can we do to improve our community and our schools for us?"  And others ask,
"What's in it for me?"

Scary, isn't it?

Take care,

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
  -----Original Message-----
  From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Deacon James
  Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:52 PM
  To: vision2020@moscow.com
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining
enrollment


  The simple question is too simple.

  What about those of us who aren't -- or don't plan on -- sending our
children to the government schools?

  Deacon
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Tom Hansen
    To: vision2020@moscow.com
    Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 7:36 PM
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with
declining enrollment


    The simple question remains.

    What is more important:  your tax liability or your children's future?

    Tom Hansen
    Moscow, Idaho
      -----Original Message-----
      From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Van Deventer, Jack
      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:13 PM
      To: Donovan Arnold; vision2020@moscow.com
      Subject: RE: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with
declining enrollment


      Just reporting the news, Donovan.  IFalls, like Moscow, had declining
enrollments.  Do I want to “do this” to the children?  I want all children
to get a great education.  At the same time, my taxes are insanely high.
Why would we want to “do this” to the parents of those same children?

      Jack

      __________________________________

      Jack Van Deventer

      jack@wsu.edu

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanarnold@hotmail.com]
      Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:02 PM
      To: Van Deventer, Jack; vision2020@moscow.com
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with
declining enrollment



      Yes Jack,

      And the Superintendent John Murdock said, "While people may see on the
surface no change in the classroom, the support services are going to be
reduced dramatically,” stated at the bottom of the article. It also
completely drained its reserves. This is how they dealt with budget cuts,
not with declined enrollment as you suggest.

      Why do we want to do this to the children and educators of Moscow
School District? Not implying that you do, but others would.

      Donovan J Arnold




      >From: "Van Deventer, Jack"

      >To:

      >Subject: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining
enrollment

      >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:40:39 -0700

      >

      >IDAHO FALLS - The Idaho Falls School Board cut 117 mostly part-time
jobs and $1.36 million from the district's budget this week.

      >

      >

      >

      >School officials said stagnant state funding, an eight-year
enrollment slide, a turbulent economy and surging costs for energy and
employee benefits left the district no choice but to cut payroll by nearly 4
percent for the first time in at least 30 years.

      >

      >

      >

      >For more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/Story.asp?ID=43124

      >

      >

      >

      >Jack

      >

      >__________________________________

      >

      >Jack Van Deventer

      >

      >jack@wsu.edu

      >

      >

      >

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D846233412-28062003>That is where the=20
difference lies in this listserve.&nbsp; Some of us ask, "What can we do =
to=20
improve our community and our schools for us?"&nbsp; And others ask, =
"What's in=20
it for me?"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D846233412-28062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D846233412-28062003>Scary, isn't=20
it?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D846233412-28062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D846233412-28062003>Take=20
care,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D846233412-28062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D846233412-28062003>Tom =

Hansen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D846233412-28062003>Moscow,=20
Idaho</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
  <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
vision2020-admin@moscow.com=20
  [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Deacon=20
  James<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 27, 2003 8:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] How one ID =
school=20
  district dealt with declining enrollment<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The simple question is too simple. =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What about those of us who aren't -- =
or don't=20
  plan on -- sending our children to the government =
schools?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deacon</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:thansen@moscow.com" title=3Dthansen@moscow.com>Tom =
Hansen</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"=20
    title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com>vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 27, 2003 =
7:36=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] How =
one ID=20
    school district dealt with declining enrollment</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D951523202-28062003>The simple=20
    question remains.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D951523202-28062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D951523202-28062003>What is more=20
    important:&nbsp; your tax liability or your children's=20
    future?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D951523202-28062003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D951523202-28062003>Tom=20
    Hansen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D951523202-28062003>Moscow,=20
    Idaho</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
      <DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com">vision2020-admin@moscow.com</=
A>=20
      [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Van =
Deventer,=20
      Jack<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 27, 2003 6:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Donovan=20
      Arnold; <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B>Sub=
ject:</B>=20
      RE: [Vision2020] How one ID school district dealt with declining=20
      enrollment<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
      <DIV class=3DSection1>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Just reporting the news,=20
      Donovan.&nbsp; IFalls, like </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblue><SPAN =

      style=3D"COLOR: blue">Moscow</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblue><SPAN =

      style=3D"COLOR: blue">, had declining enrollments.&nbsp; Do I want =
to &#8220;do=20
      this&#8221; to the children?&nbsp; I want all children to get a =
great=20
      education.&nbsp; At the same time, my taxes are insanely =
high.&nbsp; Why=20
      would we want to &#8220;do this&#8221; to the parents of those =
same=20
      children?</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dblue face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">__________________________________</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jack =
Van=20
      Deventer</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT color=3Dnavy face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:jack@wsu.edu">jack@wsu.edu</A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
      </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Donovan=20
      Arnold</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=20
      [mailto:donovanarnold@hotmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 27, 2003 =
5:02=20
      PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
      </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Van Deventer,=20
      Jack</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">;=20
      vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: =
[</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">Vision2020</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
      face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt">]=20
      How one ID school district dealt with declining=20
      enrollment</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
      <DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes Jack,</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And the Superintendent John Murdock =
said, "While=20
      people may see on the surface no change in the classroom, the =
support=20
      services are going to be reduced dramatically,&#8221;&nbsp;stated =
at the bottom=20
      of the article. It also completely drained its reserves. This is =
how they=20
      dealt with budget cuts, not with declined enrollment as you=20
      suggest.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Why do we want to do this to the =
children and=20
      educators of Moscow School District? Not implying that you do, but =
others=20
      would.</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Donovan J Arnold<BR><!-- END STORY CODE =
--><!-- BEGIN TAGLINE --><!--BEGIN THE BYLINE FOR THE BOTTOM OF THE =
STORY --><!-- END TAGLINE --><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P></PP>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;From: "Van Deventer, =
Jack"=20
      </SPAN></FONT></P><JACK@WSU.EDU>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;To:=20
      </SPAN></FONT></P><VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;Subject: [Vision2020] =
How one ID=20
      school district dealt with declining enrollment </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;Date: Fri, 27 Jun =
2003 17:40:39=20
      -0700 </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;IDAHO FALLS - The =
Idaho Falls=20
      School Board cut 117 mostly part-time jobs and $1.36 million from =
the=20
      district's budget this week. </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;School officials said =
stagnant=20
      state funding, an eight-year enrollment slide, a turbulent economy =
and=20
      surging costs for energy and employee benefits left the district =
no choice=20
      but to cut payroll by nearly 4 percent for the first time in at =
least 30=20
      years. </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;For more:=20
      http://www.idahostatesman.com/Story.asp?ID=3D43124 =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;Jack =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;__________________________________=20
      </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;Jack Van Deventer=20
      </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt;jack@wsu.edu =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&gt; </SPAN></FONT></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
      size=3D3><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">&gt;_____________________________________________________=20
      List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the=20
      communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net=20
      mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com=20
      =
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