[Vision2020] Email and Libel

[Bob Hoffmann]

Tom,

Please accept my sincere apologies.  The error was not a nefarious attempt 
to pin some dastardly words on you, but simply a by-product of technology, 
whereby you "quoted" someone and I "quoted" you "quoting" someone. The 
important thing in my message was the definition, and not whether you, or 
Doug Wilson, or Bill London, or Tony Blair supplied the definition.  In 
fact, since it was a dictionary definition, I'd bet everyone was clear that 
it wasn't a direct quote from anyone on the list.

But I'm not certain why I am responding to this.  Obviously, you didn't 
address your comments to me, but to someone who merely spells his name 
similarly to my name.  Or am I being petty with this remark?  Please, 
someone teach me by example not to be petty.

Thanks,
Bob Hoffmann

At 09:30 AM 6/25/2003 -0700, Thomas Hansen wrote:
>Mr. Hoffman:
>
>I did not make that statement that you credited to me.  I was quoting
>another subscriber and rebutting his statement.  Suggest that you ensure
>that your qotes and credits are more accurate, ok?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Tom Hansen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Hoffmann [mailto:escape@alt-escape.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:11 AM
>To: vision2020@moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Email and Libel
>
>
>At 06:25 PM 6/24/2003 -0700, Tom Hansen wrote:
> >"Libel: Published words or pictures that falsely and maliciously defame a
> >person. Libel is published defamation; slander is spoken.
> >Defamation: That which tends to injure a persons reputation. Libel is
> >published defamation, whereas slander is spoken. "
>
>I'm not a lawyer, but here's my understanding of the matter.
>
>To sustain this charge in court, you must prove:
>
>1. The defendant knew that the statements were false (whereas the defendant
>in this case could probably get off with a credible insanity defense)
>2. The statements were believed by the public (no sign of that here), and
>3. The statements resulted in some injury, damage, or loss to the maligned
>party (again, no sign of that here).
>
>Of course, to sue, it helps if the defendant has property or income, and is
>not, as is the case at hand, a vagrant.
>
>
>Bob Hoffmann
>820 S. Logan St.
>Moscow, ID  83843
>
>Tel: 208 883-0642
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