[Vision2020] How About This Great Post From R. Huskey?
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FROM AUGUST 21, 2002
DonaldH675@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Visionaries,
> Just to clarify my understanding of Doug Wilson et al.'s understanding of the
> noble nature of keeping slaves I extended my research today. The following
> web address deals with the issue of "theonomy' or 'christian
> reconstructionism', " which is, as nearly as I can tell, the operational
> nature of christian government, family management etc. The article can be
> found at the website below.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=theonomists+%2B+roche
>
> The article, written by Dr. Thomas P. Roche, appears in Religion and Politics
> Digest, an on-line Calvinistic-style journal. Dr. Roche is an academically
> trained scholar, with a specialty in classics, who it appears, is a
> traditional Presbyterian, with a trained researchers interest in exposing
> self promoting ministers and their crackpot world views. Although the
> article is very long, and the terminology obtuse at times, Christ Church, its
> growth, development and leadership does get plenty of exposure.
> Among many interesting statements, I found the following to be especially
> germane to recent discussions.
> "Perhaps the most common of these is that held by myriads of would-be Col.
> Culpepers, men who believe that the ante-bellum American south was the
> greatest, godliest, paradise in the history of the World, and the north was a
> bastion of wickedness utterly subsumed to Unitarianism and proto-marxism,
> etc. Slavery gets barely a mention and, when pressed, many of these dudes
> defend the refusal of Christian masters to teach their slaves to read, to
> give them freedom on voluntary acceptance of baptism, as was centuries-old
> church practice....
> Yet, somehow, acceptance of a growing list of myths associated with the old
> south and corresponding north, seems to be de rigeur in the movement, and
> those evincing pro-Union views tend to receive harsh treatments not mollified
> by facts. Add this to a wistful and delusional nostalgia for old-style
> agrarianism (made the more pathetic when argued for on electronic mail
> mailing lists!), and one finds many of these guys just laughable... those,
> that is, who are not actually in power to make their vision perhaps come
> true. Many of these guys are young, impressionable fellows who are
> nonetheless likely quite harmless, but there are scarier advocates,
> nonetheless. One especially unctious individual comes to mind, the Rev. J.
> Steven Wilkins, currently a PCA pastor in Monroe, Louisiana. Holding an MA in
> history, Wilkins is perhaps the leading revisionist neo-confederate and
> Yankee-hater (these people turn 'Yankee' into a smear term meaning
> 'Big-Brother unitarian and ignore the fact that millions of New Englanders
> own the term as one of ethnic pride) in theonomic circles today. In addition
> to being a promoter of the paedocommuionist heresy, he sponsors an annual
> 'Confederate Heritage Conference' AT HIS CHURCH, where mostly true-believer
> guests learn all about dem damnyankees, how great ante-bellum Mississippi was
> (for massa), etc., all recorded for posterity on tape. On one of his 'History
> of America' tapes, Wilkins actually claimed that, although we were going to
> hear a different version of US history from him than we had heard from our
> 'atheistic professors', we should accept his version of reality, since it
> came from a Christian (hint to brethren from the State of Rhode Island and
> Providence Plantations, pass on his 'Roger Williams' and "Rhode Island" tapes
> unless you've a strong constitution and have not eaten recently). On one
> 'Confederate Heritage' tape he notes the work of southern scholar Grady
> McWhiney, 'Cracker Culture', which gives a detailed warts-and-all treatment
> of ante-bellum Scotch-Irish southern frontiersmen. I read the book on this
> notation from Wilkins; methinks he had not read it when he mentioned it, but
> when I tried to call him on the less than idyllic portrayal of southern
> history McWhiney offers (as opposed to Wilkins' halcyon one), Wilkins
> initially denied mentioning the book but later blathered on something about
> McWhiney getting it wrong, not appreciating the great role of 'Calvininsm' in
> the ante-bellum south, etc. Now this would be a mere quirk of one fringe
> pastor, were Wilkins not increasingly very successful at getting converts to
> his new way of looking at reality. I know one young man who qualifies as such
> hook, line, and sinker, and there is another such convert, who is in a much
> greater position to let Wilkins make real trouble... Doug Wilson. Simply put,
> Wilkins is Wilson's intellectual superior, and in recent years, the two men's
> association has grown quite close, with all the signs pointing to a
> wholesale, uncritical acceptance by Wilson, of Wilkinsism. Wilson is already
> co-hosting Wilkinsite "American History" conferences in Moscow/elsewhere,
> heavily promoted to his CA/Canon Press as well as his "Classical Christian
> School" clienteles. Speaking as one Yankee who also cares about history and
> reality, this does not, in my opinion, bode at all well for the future, both
> in and out of the theonomy movement."
> I would urge all interested persons to take a look at this website. If you
> are not interested in reading all of it, scroll down about 1/2 through the
> article and learn about the history, background and attraction between the
> defense of slavery and Christ Church. By the way, Canon Press will be
> releasing another of Steve Wilkin's noble Confederacy "books" in September.
>
> Enjoy the reading,
> Rose Huskey
>
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<P>FROM AUGUST 21, 2002</P>
<P>DonaldH675@aol.com wrote:<BR></P>
<P>> Dear Visionaries,<BR>> Just to clarify my understanding of Doug Wilson et al.'s understanding of the <BR>> noble nature of keeping slaves I extended my research today. The following <BR>> web address deals with the issue of "theonomy' or 'christian <BR>> reconstructionism', " which is, as nearly as I can tell, the operational <BR>> nature of christian government, family management etc. The article can be <BR>> found at the website below.<BR>> <A href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en" target=_top>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en</A>&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=theonomists+%2B+roche<BR>> <BR>> The article, written by Dr. Thomas P. Roche, appears in Religion and Politics <BR>> Digest, an on-line Calvinistic-style journal. Dr. Roche is an academically <BR>> trained scholar, with a specialty in classics, who it appears, is a <BR>> traditional Presbyterian, with a trained researchers interest in exposing <BR>> self !
promoting
ministers and their crackpot world views. Although the <BR>> article is very long, and the terminology obtuse at times, Christ Church, its <BR>> growth, development and leadership does get plenty of exposure.<BR>> Among many interesting statements, I found the following to be especially <BR>> germane to recent discussions.<BR>> "Perhaps the most common of these is that held by myriads of would-be Col. <BR>> Culpepers, men who believe that the ante-bellum American south was the <BR>> greatest, godliest, paradise in the history of the World, and the north was a <BR>> bastion of wickedness utterly subsumed to Unitarianism and proto-marxism, <BR>> etc. Slavery gets barely a mention and, when pressed, many of these dudes <BR>> defend the refusal of Christian masters to teach their slaves to read, to <BR>> give them freedom on voluntary acceptance of baptism, as was centuries-old <BR>> church practice....<BR>> Yet, somehow, acceptance !
of a
growing list of myths associated with the old <BR>> south and corresponding north, seems to be de rigeur in the movement, and <BR>> those evincing pro-Union views tend to receive harsh treatments not mollified <BR>> by facts. Add this to a wistful and delusional nostalgia for old-style <BR>> agrarianism (made the more pathetic when argued for on electronic mail <BR>> mailing lists!), and one finds many of these guys just laughable... those, <BR>> that is, who are not actually in power to make their vision perhaps come <BR>> true. Many of these guys are young, impressionable fellows who are <BR>> nonetheless likely quite harmless, but there are scarier advocates, <BR>> nonetheless. One especially unctious individual comes to mind, the Rev. <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #a0ffff">J</B>. <BR>> <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #99ff99">Steven </B><B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B>, currently a PCA pas!
tor in
Monroe, Louisiana. Holding an MA in <BR>> history, <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> is perhaps the leading revisionist neo-confederate and <BR>> Yankee-hater (these people turn 'Yankee' into a smear term meaning <BR>> 'Big-Brother unitarian and ignore the fact that millions of New Englanders <BR>> own the term as one of ethnic pride) in theonomic circles today. In addition <BR>> to being a promoter of the paedocommuionist heresy, he sponsors an annual <BR>> 'Confederate Heritage Conference' AT HIS CHURCH, where mostly true-believer <BR>> guests learn all about dem damnyankees, how great ante-bellum Mississippi was <BR>> (for massa), etc., all recorded for posterity on tape. On one of his 'History <BR>> of America' tapes, <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> actually claimed that, although we were going to <BR>> hear a different version of US history from him than we had heard from our <BR>!
>
'atheistic professors', we should accept his version of reality, since it <BR>> came from a Christian (hint to brethren from the State of Rhode Island and <BR>> Providence Plantations, pass on his 'Roger Williams' and "Rhode Island" tapes <BR>> unless you've a strong constitution and have not eaten recently). On one <BR>> 'Confederate Heritage' tape he notes the work of southern scholar Grady <BR>> McWhiney, 'Cracker Culture', which gives a detailed warts-and-all treatment <BR>> of ante-bellum Scotch-Irish southern frontiersmen. I read the book on this <BR>> notation from <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B>; methinks he had not read it when he mentioned it, but <BR>> when I tried to call him on the less than idyllic portrayal of southern <BR>> history McWhiney offers (as opposed to <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B>' halcyon one), <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> !
<BR>>
initially denied mentioning the book but later blathered on something about <BR>> McWhiney getting it wrong, not appreciating the great role of 'Calvininsm' in <BR>> the ante-bellum south, etc. Now this would be a mere quirk of one fringe <BR>> pastor, were <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> not increasingly very successful at getting converts to <BR>> his new way of looking at reality. I know one young man who qualifies as such <BR>> hook, line, and sinker, and there is another such convert, who is in a much <BR>> greater position to let <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> make real trouble... Doug Wilson. Simply put, <BR>> <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff9999">Wilkins</B> is Wilson's intellectual superior, and in recent years, the two men's <BR>> association has grown quite close, with all the signs pointing to a <BR>> wholesale, uncritical acceptance by Wilson, of Wilkinsism. W!
ilson is
already <BR>> co-hosting Wilkinsite "American History" conferences in Moscow/elsewhere, <BR>> heavily promoted to his CA/Canon Press as well as his "Classical Christian <BR>> School" clienteles. Speaking as one Yankee who also cares about history and <BR>> reality, this does not, in my opinion, bode at all well for the future, both <BR>> in and out of the theonomy movement."<BR>> I would urge all interested persons to take a look at this website. If you <BR>> are not interested in reading all of it, scroll down about 1/2 through the <BR>> article and learn about the history, background and attraction between the <BR>> defense of slavery and Christ Church. By the way, Canon Press will be <BR>> releasing another of Steve Wilkin's noble Confederacy "books" in September. <BR>> <BR>> Enjoy the reading,<BR>> Rose <B style="COLOR: black; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff66">Huskey</B><BR>> <BR></P>
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