[Vision2020] Religious Diversity Education
Luke
lukenieuwsma@softhome.net
Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:24:18 -0700
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Hello, Mr. Hansen:
What would I have to say about the military, given this discussion? =
It needs reform, like the rest of the world. It will come.
Luke
P.S. Though there are indeed many different denominations in the church =
today, most of them agree on the essential point of the gospel: Christ =
died for sinners, that they might forsake a life of sin (sin being =
defined, for the most part, as what the Bible says is sin).
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From: Tom Hansen=20
To: Luke ; Donovan Arnold=20
Cc: vision2020=20
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Religious Diversity Education
What would you have to say about the U.S. military. Each of the =
branches of the armed forces provide services for many religions. This =
strongly implies that the U.S. armed forces promotes diversity. =20
If you are right (and I seriously doubt it from ALL angles) and there =
is only one "right" denomination (realizing that Christianity is divided =
into denominations), what does this say about the military?
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Luke
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Donovan Arnold; thansen@moscow.com
Cc: vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Religious Diversity Education
Mr. Arnold:
The position you are taking is known as relativism; everyone's =
right, no one is really wrong, you can believe what you believe, and =
I'll believe what I want to. The problem with this is that it avoids all =
the real questions in life; what is right, and what is wrong? If every =
religion is acceptable, then how can you avoid the conflictions between =
belief and belief when people live out what they believe? We're not all =
saying the same thing; everyone is singing to a different tune, and it =
sounds rather dissonant.
You essentially stated that it was wrong to claim absolute =
certainty of your religion. However, you claim absolute certainty that I =
am wrong. You're not considering the possibility that I may be right. I =
think there's a contradiction here.
Best,
Luke Nieuwsma
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello, Mr. Hansen:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> What would I have to =
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the military, given this discussion? It needs reform, like the rest of =
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world. It will come.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Luke</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. Though there are indeed many =
different=20
denominations in the church today, most of them agree on the essential =
point of=20
the gospel: Christ died for sinners, that they might forsake a life of =
sin (sin=20
being defined, for the most part, as what the Bible says is =
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<A title=3Dthansen@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:thansen@moscow.com">Tom =
Hansen</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 19, 2003 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] =
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Diversity Education</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547272801-20062003>What would you=20
have to say about the U.S. military. Each of the branches of the =
armed=20
forces provide services for many religions. This strongly =
implies that=20
the U.S. armed forces promotes diversity. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547272801-20062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547272801-20062003>If you are=20
right (and I seriously doubt it from ALL angles) and there is only one =
"right"=20
denomination (realizing that Christianity is divided into =
denominations), what=20
does this say about the military?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D547272801-20062003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547272801-20062003>Tom=20
Hansen</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D547272801-20062003>Moscow,=20
Idaho</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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A>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Luke<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Donovan Arnold;=20
thansen@moscow.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> vision2020<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[Vision2020] Religious Diversity Education<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr. Arnold:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The position you =
are taking=20
is known as relativism; everyone's right, no one is really wrong, =
you can=20
believe what you believe, and I'll believe what I want to. The =
problem with=20
this is that it avoids all the real questions in life; what is =
right, and=20
what is wrong? If every religion is acceptable, then how can you =
avoid the=20
conflictions between belief and belief when people live out what =
they=20
believe? </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We're not all =
saying the same=20
thing; everyone is singing to a different tune, and it sounds rather =
dissonant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> You essentially =
stated that=20
it was wrong to claim absolute certainty of your religion. However, =
you=20
claim absolute certainty that I am wrong. You're not considering the =
possibility that I may be right. I think there's a contradiction=20
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Luke=20
Nieuwsma</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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