[Vision2020] Religious Diversity Education
Luke
lukenieuwsma@softhome.net
Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:14:45 -0700
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Hello, Don:
>This is incorrect. Hitler only espoused that garbage, he didn't believe =
it himself (only people that don't >have a life believe this).
He sure did a great job of convincing a nation for not believing it.
> My point was also that you are hypocritical to say that when Hussein =
and Osama claim to be of >God and slaughter people in the name of their =
"faith" that you accept that as a true proclamation of >the "Muslim =
faith". However, when people like Hitler, and countless numbers of Kings =
and Queens, >and other religious leaders slaughter people in the name of =
their "faith" in Christianity you reject it? >Why do you use one =
standard to judge one group of people and another standard to judge =
another >group of people?
Hitler didn't use Christianity, he used deism. Napoleon used =
Catholicism, which is different than biblical Christianity. I'm not =
using two standards.=20
>So when you do this, others that are just as fanatical as you but of =
another faith see your injustice >and hypocrisy in how you judge you =
give ammunition to them to disarm others trying to get people to >see =
the righteousness of Christ.=20
I am not fanatical in the same way that countless of jihad suicide =
bombers have been fanatical. It is bloody murder to kill someone because =
they don't serve the true God, and I would never do such a thing.
>If I knew nothing of the Muslim Faith or of the Christian Faith, and =
were wishing to establish a faith, I >would most likely choose the =
Muslim faith based on the hypocritical nature that you use to judge =
people. >Christians have slaughtered more people, own more wealth, and =
try to control more people then any >other group of people under any =
other religious faith.=20
What's wrong with owning wealth? What's wrong with being in positions of =
authority?
But as to the slaughtering issue, it seems you don't know your history =
too well. To recount the rise of Islam briefly:
Shortly after Mohammed took Medina in the 7th and 8th centuries, =
hundreds of thousands of those who you would call "radical Muslims" =
overthrew the rest of Saudi Arabia in bloody war, slaughtering their =
enemies. Next came Persia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Constantinople. Then =
the rest of Northern Africa fell to the swords of the Muslims, and they =
proceeded to invade Spain and Portugal. The Moores were known for ages =
as cruel and harsh, and these were the early Muslims who made it into =
the European continent.
Charles Martel faced them in battle and defeated their armies, keeping =
them from taking control of all of Europe. Thousands of Europeans headed =
into Palestine after it, too, had been seized, raped, and pillaged by =
invading Muslims on a long, drawn-out jihad. The European occupations, =
all ill-fated, were known as Crusades and were not conducted by =
Christians but young men wanting adventure from all parts of European =
society. Yet they were only trying to win back what the Muslims had =
invaded.=20
And then there's Africa, which over time has slowly become =
Muslim-dominated, where constant wars, famines, and slaughter are =
common-place things. BTW, in the late 1990's began an anti-white, =
anti-American movement throughout Africa where white farmers, Christian =
or not, are being attacked and their farms and homes are being =
destroyed. Millions have died, absolutely millions, through the work of =
true Muslims, not fake or hypocritical Muslims.
I have nothing personally to hate them for, but I pity them. Their Koran =
says specifically that if a Muslim warrior dies fighting in the name of =
Allah, he will wake up in paradise with 70+ hot chicks for his pleasure. =
So, they go kill themselves in suicide bombings in the name of Allah, =
and they do it sincerely (which has been happening a lot since Reagan).
As to whether God is still taught in the public schools, you must not be =
up very much on what is taught in the science classes. I know as certain =
fact that children today are taught that they evolved through random =
chance from primordal goo into primates, and then into successively =
developed animals, finally arriving as humans. This leaves no room for =
God, whose absence you will hear affirmed if you talk to the average =
public school biology teacher nationwide.
Luke=20
P.S. Re the "How do you teach" series (constitution, Luther, =
multiculturalism, history, etc) none of these things really matter if =
we're all animals, without souls.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello, Don:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>>This is incorrect. Hitler only espoused that garbage, he didn't =
believe=20
it himself (only people that don't >have a life believe this).</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He sure did a great job of convincing a =
nation for=20
not believing it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>> My point was also that you are hypocritical to say that =
when=20
Hussein and Osama claim to be of >God and slaughter people in the =
name of=20
their "faith" that you accept that as a true proclamation of >the =
"Muslim=20
faith". However, when people like Hitler, and countless numbers of Kings =
and=20
Queens, >and other religious leaders slaughter people in the name of =
their=20
"faith" in Christianity you reject it? >Why do you use one standard =
to judge=20
one group of people and another standard to judge another >group of=20
people?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hitler didn't use Christianity, he used =
deism.=20
Napoleon used Catholicism, which is different than biblical =
Christianity. I'm=20
not using two standards. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>>So when you do this, others that are just as fanatical as you =
but of=20
another faith see your injustice >and hypocrisy in how you judge you =
give=20
ammunition to them to disarm others trying to get people to >see the=20
righteousness of Christ. </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not fanatical in the same way that =
countless=20
of jihad suicide bombers have been fanatical. It is bloody murder to =
kill=20
someone because they don't serve the true God, and I would never do such =
a=20
thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P>>If I knew nothing of the Muslim Faith or of the Christian Faith, =
and were=20
wishing to establish a faith, I >would most likely choose the Muslim =
faith=20
based on the hypocritical nature that you use to judge people. =
>Christians=20
have slaughtered more people, own more wealth, and try to control more =
people=20
then any >other group of people under any other religious faith. </P>
<P>What's wrong with owning wealth? What's wrong with being in positions =
of=20
authority?</P>
<P>But as to the slaughtering issue, it seems you don't know your =
history too=20
well. To recount the rise of Islam briefly:</P>
<P> Shortly after Mohammed took Medina in the 7th and 8th =
centuries,=20
hundreds of thousands of those who you would call "radical Muslims" =
overthrew=20
the rest of Saudi Arabia in bloody war, slaughtering their enemies. Next =
came=20
Persia, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Constantinople. Then the rest of =
Northern Africa=20
fell to the swords of the Muslims, and they proceeded to invade Spain =
and=20
Portugal. The Moores were known for ages as cruel and harsh, and these =
were the=20
early Muslims who made it into the European continent.</P>
<P>Charles Martel faced them in battle and defeated their armies, =
keeping them=20
from taking control of all of Europe. Thousands of Europeans headed into =
Palestine after it, too, had been seized, raped, and pillaged by =
invading=20
Muslims on a long, drawn-out jihad. The European occupations, all =
ill-fated,=20
were known as Crusades and were not conducted by Christians but young =
men=20
wanting adventure from all parts of European society. Yet they were only =
trying=20
to win back what the Muslims had invaded. </P>
<P>And then there's Africa, which over time has slowly become =
Muslim-dominated,=20
where constant wars, famines, and slaughter are common-place things. =
BTW, in the=20
late 1990's began an anti-white, anti-American movement throughout =
Africa where=20
white farmers, Christian or not, are being attacked and their farms and =
homes=20
are being destroyed. Millions have died, absolutely millions, through =
the work=20
of true Muslims, not fake or hypocritical Muslims.</P>
<P>I have nothing personally to hate them for, but I pity them. Their =
Koran says=20
specifically that if a Muslim warrior dies fighting in the name of =
Allah, he=20
will wake up in paradise with 70+ hot chicks for his pleasure. So, they =
go kill=20
themselves in suicide bombings in the name of Allah, and they do it =
sincerely=20
(which has been happening a lot since Reagan).</P>
<P> </P>
<P>As to whether God is still taught in the public schools, you must not =
be up=20
very much on what is taught in the science classes. I know <U>as =
certain=20
fact</U> that children today are taught that they evolved through random =
chance=20
from primordal goo into primates, and then into successively developed =
animals,=20
finally arriving as humans. This leaves no room for God, whose absence =
you will=20
hear affirmed if you talk to the average public school biology teacher=20
nationwide.</P>
<P>Luke </P>
<P>P.S. Re the "How do you teach" series (constitution, Luther,=20
multiculturalism, history, etc) none of these things really matter if =
we're all=20
animals, without souls.</FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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