[Vision2020] Water
French
dfrench@moscow.com
Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:44:54 -0700
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John:
I have been told that all water used in both Pullman and Moscow is =
metered. In past years, Moscow only read meters for public buildings =
and parks once per year. They have begun reading them monthly very =
recently. None of my data shows how much water is being used by either =
City. I'm sure if you called Art Garro at the Pullman Water Dept, he =
would have those figures. I don't know if Moscow would have similar =
figures (although they should) because the categories for customer =
accounts in Moscow are listed as either residential or commercial. =
Perhaps the Water Dept has a breakdown.
Larry Kirkland at PBAC would have all of the latest breakdowns on amount =
of effluent used and if the City is compensated by UI. As far as =
treated effluent going on downstream, things get much more complicated =
because of EPA rules for temperature, etc, based on the classification =
of Paradise Creek and the fact that it flows into Washington. I could =
get into details, but I think Larry could give you more information =
based on the discussions at the PBAC meetings.
Dianne=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Danahy=20
To: 'French' ; vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Water
A couple of questions=20
What percentage of Pullman's water use is by city use? Or is that =
amount included in residential?
Is the city of Moscow's water use metered? If not, why not?
I remember something said a while ago about the city watering the =
greenways by hand using a truck and a couple of employees during the =
day.
The effluent from the city's waste water treatment plant is a valuable =
resource. How is the city compensated by the UI for it's use?
What percentage of effluent travels downstream? Can this be captured =
and reused?
John
jdanahy@turbonet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
On Behalf Of French
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Lewiston Morning Tribune; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Water
To the editor:
Elsa Kirsten Peters' July 17 letter purports to provide "facts, not =
rhetoric" about our groundwater. Unfortunately, her "facts" are more =
rhetorical than factual.
Ms. Peters claims that water levels in the upper (Wanapum) aquifer =
"have done nothing but rise in my lifetime". But a chart in the 2000 =
Annual Report of the Palouse Basin Aquifer Committee (PBAC) shows =
Wanapum levels between 1976 and 2000 rose twelve years, remained level =
four years, and declined eight years. Most of the declining years =
happened after 1990, when Moscow increased pumping from the shallow =
aquifer because of improved filtration capabilities. Shifting even more =
pumping back to the Wanapum now would only accelerate those declines.
Ms. Peters also claims that "Most water used in the summer goes to =
watering golf courses". The "real" fact is that local golf courses =
consume relatively little deep Grande Ronde water. The UI golf course is =
watered entirely with effluent from Moscow's wastewater treatment plant. =
The Elks course draws from the shallow aquifer that Ms. Peters =
(erroneously) claims isn't dropping at all. Irrigation at the WSU golf =
course isn't metered, so it can only be estimated. But even if 10% of =
WSU pumpage goes to the golf course, that would constitute little more =
than 2% of basinwide pumping from the deep aquifer.=20
By contrast, data from the city of Pullman show 75-80% of their annual =
water use is residential, the remainder going to commercial and public =
uses. If the information were available, Moscow's usage would most =
likely mirror Pullman's. Ms. Peters' is correct that "Most water used in =
both Moscow and Pullman during the summer is not consumed by 'new =
housing developments,'" but residential consumers ARE by far the largest =
user group in the basin and should be expected to contribute the =
greatest amount to conservation efforts.
Bill French, Director =
=
Palouse Water Conservation Network
202 E 7th St, Moscow, ID 83843
883-3937 * prairiedoc@moscow.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been told that all water used in =
both=20
Pullman and Moscow is metered. In past years, Moscow only read =
meters for=20
public buildings and parks once per year. They have begun reading =
them=20
monthly very recently. None of my data shows how much water is =
being used=20
by either City. I'm sure if you called Art Garro at the Pullman =
Water=20
Dept, he would have those figures. I don't know if Moscow would =
have=20
similar figures (although they should) because the categories for =
customer=20
accounts in Moscow are listed as either residential or commercial. =
Perhaps=20
the Water Dept has a breakdown.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry Kirkland at PBAC would have all =
of the latest=20
breakdowns on amount of effluent used and if the City is compensated by=20
UI. As far as treated effluent going on downstream, things get =
much more=20
complicated because of EPA rules for temperature, etc, based on the=20
classification of Paradise Creek and the fact that it flows into=20
Washington. I could get into details, but I think Larry could give =
you more information based on the discussions at the PBAC=20
meetings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dianne</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djdanahy@turbonet.com =
href=3D"mailto:jdanahy@turbonet.com">John=20
Danahy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddfrench@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:dfrench@moscow.com">'French'</A> ; <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 =
4:31=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] =
Water</DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A couple of =
questions=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What =
percentage of=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Pullman</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dblue><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=92s =
water use is by=20
city use? Or is that amount included in =
residential?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is the city =
of=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Moscow</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dblue><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">=92s =
water use metered?=20
If not, why not?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I remember =
something=20
said a while ago about the city watering the greenways by hand using a =
truck=20
and a couple of employees during the day.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The =
effluent from the=20
city=92s waste water treatment plant is a valuable resource. How =
is the=20
city compensated by the UI for it=92s use?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What =
percentage of=20
effluent travels downstream? Can this be captured and=20
reused?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblue size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
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href=3D"mailto:jdanahy@turbonet.com">jdanahy@turbonet.com</A></SPAN></FON=
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vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] =
<B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>French<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, July 23, 2003 =
1:24=20
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Lewiston =
Morning=20
Tribune; vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Vision2020]=20
Water</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">To the=20
editor:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Elsa Kirsten =
Peters=92=20
July 17 letter purports to provide "facts, not rhetoric" about our=20
groundwater. Unfortunately, her "facts" are more rhetorical than=20
factual.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Ms. Peters =
claims that=20
water levels in the upper (Wanapum) aquifer "have done nothing but =
rise in my=20
lifetime". But a chart in the 2000 Annual Report of the Palouse Basin =
Aquifer=20
Committee (PBAC) shows Wanapum levels between 1976 and 2000 rose =
twelve years,=20
remained level four years, and declined eight years. Most of the =
declining=20
years happened after 1990, when Moscow increased pumping from the =
shallow=20
aquifer because of improved filtration capabilities. Shifting even =
more=20
pumping back to the Wanapum now would only accelerate those=20
declines.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Ms. Peters =
also claims=20
that "Most water used in the summer goes to watering golf courses". =
The "real"=20
fact is that local golf courses consume relatively little deep Grande =
Ronde=20
water. The UI golf course is watered entirely with effluent from =
Moscow=92s=20
wastewater treatment plant. The Elks course draws from the shallow =
aquifer=20
that Ms. Peters (erroneously) claims isn=92t dropping at all. =
Irrigation at the=20
WSU golf course isn=92t metered, so it can only be estimated. But even =
if 10% of=20
WSU pumpage goes to the golf course, that would constitute little more =
than 2%=20
of basinwide pumping from the deep aquifer. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">By contrast, =
data from=20
the city of Pullman show 75-80% of their annual water use is =
residential, the=20
remainder going to commercial and public uses. If the information were =
available, Moscow=92s usage would most likely mirror Pullman=92s. Ms. =
Peters=92 is=20
correct that "Most water used in both Moscow and Pullman during the =
summer is=20
not consumed by =91new housing developments,=92" but residential =
consumers ARE by=20
far the largest user group in the basin and should be expected to =
contribute=20
the greatest amount to conservation efforts.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill French,=20
=
Director  =
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Palouse Water=20
Conservation Network</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">202 E 7th St, =
Moscow,=20
ID 83843</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">883-3937 *=20
prairiedoc@moscow.com</SPAN></FONT></P>
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